RTTRUTH Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 @eh3034 @ovfd55 @EaglesPeteC @LinderFournette @JetsandI If anyone is buying into future year assets, Colts will offer 5.16(159) / 2023 5th / maybe another small pick swap this year for an otc pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 10 hours ago, eh3034 said: Whatever, I completely disagree, and we had zero issues the first time around. Maybe send big boards when you know you're going to miss an entire weekend, or post that you might be unavailable for a day? I'm not ok with skipped picks destroying the draft and have articulated that many times. If dude didn't just go awol on us and just gave a heads up, we'd have never picked for him. Use the follow feature and get an alert when your pick is up? Just going awol is fine I guess? But of course the mighty mods know better and I'm just a dummy right? Funny how the only people I've had problems with in the last 10+ years on this site are 6-7 of the sites mods. I suppose it's a sign I'm just out of place here, so don't worry, I'll wrap up the ongoing mocks and tap out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 @eh3034no disrespect man. You are doing a great job with this. These things are hard to run and take a lot of time an energy, so do it however you want. All I’m saying is, clear communication of expectations and what happens if expectations aren’t met is helpful to prevent problems in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RTTRUTH said: @eh3034 @ovfd55 @EaglesPeteC @LinderFournette @JetsandI If anyone is buying into future year assets, Colts will offer 5.16(159) / 2023 5th / maybe another small pick swap this year for an otc pick. No trade interest from me. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Is Jalen Wydermyer even draftable with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, LinderFournette said: Is Jalen Wydermyer even draftable with I'm just trusting the tape on that one. I know several teams have interviewed him, including the Cowboys. Personally I saw a dude with untapped potential on tape. His blocking is pretty good for a prospect. Sometimes they say "That doesn't show up on tape" or those kinds of things. I think his athleticism shows on tape better than clearly his testing did. I was debating a few guys at that spot, opened my draft mag to see if I'd forgotten anyone and was like "Hey, these guys have Wydermyer as TE1 also." So it obviously isn't just me that thought I saw something on tape. He's a risky pick clearly. I thought about waiting another round and then doing it, but honestly with the 5 teams I'm handling, it occurs to me I know the Cowboys less well than a few others. Couldn't commit to a different player. JUST FOR FUN: I've drafted 4 players with the Cowboys in this draft so far. And 3 of those 4 are from A&M. So clearly the front office stayed close to home this year, lol. They've interviewed all of them though, as an added bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eh3034 Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: I'm just trusting the tape on that one. I know several teams have interviewed him, including the Cowboys. Personally I saw a dude with untapped potential on tape. His blocking is pretty good for a prospect. Sometimes they say "That doesn't show up on tape" or those kinds of things. I think his athleticism shows on tape better than clearly his testing did. I was debating a few guys at that spot, opened my draft mag to see if I'd forgotten anyone and was like "Hey, these guys have Wydermyer as TE1 also." So it obviously isn't just me that thought I saw something on tape. He's a risky pick clearly. I thought about waiting another round and then doing it, but honestly with the 5 teams I'm handling, it occurs to me I know the Cowboys less well than a few others. Couldn't commit to a different player. JUST FOR FUN: I've drafted 4 players with the Cowboys in this draft so far. And 3 of those 4 are from A&M. So clearly the front office stayed close to home this year, lol. They've interviewed all of them though, as an added bonus. Well I suppose Michael Clemons is the favorite at 155 and Leon O'Neal at 167? With Wydermyer, I'm really perplexed by him. In February I had him as a true 2nd round pick, but everything pre-draft shows a potentially undraftable player. I think this is about the earliest we might see him taken, so I don't think it is a bad pick, it is a high risk pick betting on what you saw before he worked out for everyone and exposed himself. If you are a team that likes him pre-workout, he could still be a late 3rd round guy, if not he could be off your team's board entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, eh3034 said: Well I suppose Michael Clemons is the favorite at 155 and Leon O'Neal at 167? With Wydermyer, I'm really perplexed by him. In February I had him as a true 2nd round pick, but everything pre-draft shows a potentially undraftable player. I think this is about the earliest we might see him taken, so I don't think it is a bad pick, it is a high risk pick betting on what you saw before he worked out for everyone and exposed himself. If you are a team that likes him pre-workout, he could still be a late 3rd round guy, if not he could be off your team's board entirely. No question he scared a couple teams off. But we have seen things like that happen before. If he'd played anywhere other than the SEC, I wouldn't bother either. But he would play teams like Bama, or Mississippi St, and look like the biggest threat on the field. And his QB's sucked. I think a team like the Cowboys is perfect for him. He's your #2 at best day 1, and you can spend a whole year teaching him the nuances and hope he develops. If it doesn't work, it's a later 4th round pick. I could argue three teams in this draft have taken huge gambles at CB much earlier than this with guys who've never had to cover John Metchie, Jameson Williams, or Kayshon Boutte. Cowboys also happen to have four 5's and a 6. So I'll take the size, potential, and higher level of competition to grade against here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: I'm just trusting the tape on that one. I know several teams have interviewed him, including the Cowboys. Personally I saw a dude with untapped potential on tape. His blocking is pretty good for a prospect. Sometimes they say "That doesn't show up on tape" or those kinds of things. I think his athleticism shows on tape better than clearly his testing did. I was debating a few guys at that spot, opened my draft mag to see if I'd forgotten anyone and was like "Hey, these guys have Wydermyer as TE1 also." So it obviously isn't just me that thought I saw something on tape. He's a risky pick clearly. I thought about waiting another round and then doing it, but honestly with the 5 teams I'm handling, it occurs to me I know the Cowboys less well than a few others. Couldn't commit to a different player. JUST FOR FUN: I've drafted 4 players with the Cowboys in this draft so far. And 3 of those 4 are from A&M. So clearly the front office stayed close to home this year, lol. They've interviewed all of them though, as an added bonus. If tape mattered that much Jared Pickney would be a solid NFL te 2. Hint he was an sec TE with a similar ras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eh3034 Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: No question he scared a couple teams off. But we have seen things like that happen before. If he'd played anywhere other than the SEC, I wouldn't bother either. But he would play teams like Bama, or Mississippi St, and look like the biggest threat on the field. And his QB's sucked. I think a team like the Cowboys is perfect for him. He's your #2 at best day 1, and you can spend a whole year teaching him the nuances and hope he develops. If it doesn't work, it's a later 4th round pick. I could argue three teams in this draft have taken huge gambles at CB much earlier than this with guys who've never had to cover John Metchie, Jameson Williams, or Kayshon Boutte. Cowboys also happen to have four 5's and a 6. So I'll take the size, potential, and higher level of competition to grade against here. Right on, I think him and Derion Kendrick are in the same boat as guys I was into pre draft, but the workouts have really scared me. I took Wydermyer much higher than this in 8gm mock round 1 though (his awful workout happened in the middle of that draft). I think the opposite TE of him is Chigoziem Okonkwo. He was not really on anyone's draft radar, now he's crushing every workout and is getting some day 2 hype. Finding middle ground for guys like Wydermyer and Okonkwo is challenging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, LinderFournette said: If tape mattered that much Jared Pickney would be a solid NFL te 2. Hint he was an sec TE with a similar ras Not really fair though just to over-simplify and say because one guy didn't work out another guy definitely won't. If I put their college tape up against each other, Wydermyer is still the more highly rated prospect imo. And almost everyone will tell you (pro and amateur draftniks) tape should still be your #1 source. But we all know the reality is the athletic testing bleeds into those grades. If you're shooting for the stars with every pick you take the 4.30 CB who has never faced good competition. But we all find a balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, eh3034 said: Right on, I think him and Derion Kendrick are in the same boat as guys I was into pre draft, but the workouts have really scared me. I took Wydermyer much higher than this in 8gm mock round 1 though (his awful workout happened in the middle of that draft). I think the opposite TE of him is Chigoziem Okonkwo. He was not really on anyone's draft radar, now he's crushing every workout and is getting some day 2 hype. Finding middle ground for guys like Wydermyer and Okonkwo is challenging. Or Bellinger. Was all blocker, but after the workouts you know teams are wondering "Can we teach him to...?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovfd55 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Well dang, Strong and Bell are two of my favorite late round prospects. Side note it worriesme how much me and a Eagles fan @EaglesPeteC agree on prospects 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovfd55 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 @eh3034 did you hack Mel Kiper he has Watson going 22 to Green Bay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eh3034 Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ovfd55 said: @eh3034 did you hack Mel Kiper he has Watson going 22 to Green Bay Haha, maybe he follows these mock drafts and copies us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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