swede700 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 KJ Osborn -> Unheralded 3rd WR -> Jarius Wright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, swede700 said: KJ Osborn -> Unheralded 3rd WR -> Jarius Wright Think he’s a little better than Wright. Wright didn’t have to compete with a receiver like Jefferson for touches either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Q1: 4.6 average (55 total points - scoreless 3x) Q2: 8.1 average (97 total points - scoreless 2x) Q3: 2.8 average (34 total points - scoreless 7x) Q4: 8.3 average (100 total points - scoreless 2x) Overall: 24.1 average (289 total points - 11th in NFL) Nothing we didn't already know but our 3rd quarter offense needs to improve drastically. Here is where the Vikings rank in time of possession by quarter. Q1: 18th Q2: 10th Q3: 31st Q4: 14th Overall: 25th It would take me longer to look up but I'd be curious to see how many of our 3-and-outs come in the 3rd quarter. Against the Jets 4 of 13 possessions ended in a 3-and-out (30.8%). 3 of those 4 came in the 3rd quarter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 And the bottom graph tells you that Dalvin Cook has not had a good year, despite the totals. I'll be interested to find out if they ask him to take a pay cut next year or if they restructure his deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Cook’s contract is definitely one that will need to be redone, or ended. Cook is a good running back, but he isn’t the game changing running back. Certainly not this year. It’s time to take the New England approach to running backs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Cook's volume is what gives him his stats. It hasn't been efficiency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlee Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Even though Cook hasn’t been great by any measure, teams around the league still seem to respect his ability to break open. As for next year, I think a few people, even fan favorites are going to be gone. This offense with Kirko Chainz is great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I'm probably in the minority but I'd be OK rolling with Chandler, Nwangwu, and a cheap veteran into next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: I'm probably in the minority but I'd be OK rolling with Chandler, Nwangwu, and a cheap veteran into next year. If his cap number comes down, I'm more than willing to bring Dalvin back because he's still going to be better than those 2. I'm not trusting Chandler in the primary role (as I'd have to think that Nwangwu would still be a change-of-pace back). I liked what he did in the preseason, but again, that was preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 In VikeManDan's scenario, I would count on the cheap veteran to be in the primary role until Chandler or Nwangwu showed to be a better option. It would be great if that cheap veteran was Dalvin Cook, but he likely declines that cut to his pay. Then I cut him and replace him with a player that is happy to be a cheap veteran. Something like teams have recently done with Latavius Murray and Mark Ingram. Those two are too old now, but I would be looking for the next guy happy to fill such a role. There is no way Cook is worth his current contract IMO, but the team does need someone in addition to the two young RBs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 One thing potentially in the Vikings’ favor with asking Cook to take a pay cut, or ultimately cutting him is that this upcoming free agent class of running backs is fairly stacked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 hours ago, SemperFeist said: One thing potentially in the Vikings’ favor with asking Cook to take a pay cut, or ultimately cutting him is that this upcoming free agent class of running backs is fairly stacked. Agreed. Barkley and Jacobs at the top of the list with Miles Sanders and Tony Pollard not far behind, along with several others. Dalvin will be 28 next season, and while not old, is old by starting RB standards...Dalvin is not Adrian (who still had nearly a 1500 yd season at 30). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 what's the dead cap his if Cook is cooked this year and let go? If he is kept, what's his salary for 2023? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, vike daddy said: what's the dead cap his if Cook is cooked this year and let go? If he is kept, what's his salary for 2023? His dead cap next year would only be $6M, while his cap hit is $14M. Which means he really doesn't have a lot of leverage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, swede700 said: His dead cap next year would only be $6M, while his cap hit is $14M. Which means he really doesn't have a lot of leverage. https://images.app.goo.gl/JTKVNC2t8REHyZzq7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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