Trojan Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I don't understand the rules about Veto and I think they might be incomplete. I don't want to "threatens the competitive balance of the CMD" even if it's 1 of 1 person feeling that way so I won't do the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) You’re giving up about 6x the amount of the comparable trades thus far in this CMD. Edited April 10, 2022 by SwAg 6, not 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: 11.7 / 32.20 12.20 / 15.7 Written in a way I understand, is this the offer? I’m game for this. Go ahead and pick if that was your intention 3 minutes ago, Trojan said: I don't understand the rules about Veto and I think they might be incomplete. I don't want to "threatens the competitive balance of the CMD" even if it's 1 of 1 person feeling that way so I won't do the trade. I think the veto issue is with how far you move on the second pick. How bout this instead: 11.7 / 23.7 12.20 / 15.7 Shaves 9+ rounds off your drop. You comfortable with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’ll dump the situation into bcb’s lap, but there are at least two comparable trades that involved moving down 60-80 slots to move up 25-35 slots. You gave up 400 slots to move up 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: I think the veto issue is with how far you move on the second pick. How bout this instead: 11.7 / 23.7 12.20 / 15.7 Shaves 9+ rounds off your drop. You comfortable with that? I think this one is more reasonable personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I'll just stay where I'm at and let you do your other trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: I think the veto issue is with how far you move on the second pick. How bout this instead: 11.7 / 23.7 12.20 / 15.7 Shaves 9+ rounds off your drop. You comfortable with that? Seems more reasonable to me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, Trojan said: I'll just stay where I'm at and let you do your other trade Perfectly fine as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, WFLukic said: I think this one is more reasonable personally. 2 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Perfectly fine as well. To clarify: people are allowed to win trades, but egregiously disproportionate trades are subject to review, and the standard for that review is not necessarily past practice (comparable trades). When they shifted discussion to public, I viewed 400 slots as sufficiently shocking to warrant that scrutiny. I’ll defer on the matter, and appears resolved anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SwAg said: To clarify: people are allowed to win trades, but egregiously disproportionate trades are subject to review, and the standard for that review is not necessarily past practice (comparable trades). When they shifted discussion to public, I viewed 400 slots as sufficiently shocking to warrant that scrutiny. I’ll defer on the matter, and appears resolved anyway. I never PM any of my initial offers (though if I'm PM'd I respond in PM) I post because I don't want to mess it up for others, but also if I low ball someone can snipe it and beat the offer. I have no qualms being veto'd and it doesn't take any fun out of the event for me. I have never done a draft like this (I do the regular draft class ones where there is an established trade value chart to at least guide), so I had no idea what a reasonable offer would look like. I made what I thought would be a potentially winning offer, but since the pick is so far away I figured I'd need to go for a huge drop on the second half. I was wrong, and that's fine. I have a three person board anyways so the chance the guy I want to target makes it to my next pick might be low, but probably one of them does. If not my board expands to a much greater pool anyways. Edited April 10, 2022 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I think people who haven't done this before don't realize how drastic the talent drop can be throughout the CMD, but also, you had to have realized that dropping from the 15th to the 32nd round was not appropriate value for moving up a round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) RTTruth Trades: 11.7 26.18 23.7 Lukic Trades: 14.4 16.9 23.6 @RTTRUTH to confirm. Edited April 10, 2022 by WFLukic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, WFLukic said: RTTruth Trades: 11.7 26.18 23.7 Lukic Trades: 14.4 16.9 23.6 @RTTRUTH to confirm. I’m good with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 @RTTRUTH and just so you know, no one here is accusing you of anything or saying you acted poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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