NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, mtmmike said: Deshaun is only a 500 qb if you ad Playoffs and regular season that is all. He absolutely stunk up the Kansas city Playoffs game He absolutely stunk up the playoff game he played against luck. Russell Wilson who is probably The 11th best qb beat him by 3 touchdowns. So like I said Deshaun is about the 12 best qb right now. So pardon Me if I am angry about paying the 12 rated qb 55 million. Stafford was a below .500 QB that had 3 playoff appearances in 12 seasons and got blown out in 2 of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Deshaun is only a 500 qb if you ad Playoffs and regular season that is all. He absolutely stunk up the Kansas city Playoffs game He absolutely stunk up the playoff game he played against luck. Russell Wilson who is probably The 11th best qb beat him by 3 touchdowns. So like I said Deshaun is about the 12 best qb right now. So pardon Me if I am angry about paying the 12 rated qb 55 million. Wins aren't a QB stat. And... quit avoiding my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, mtmmike said: He absolutely stunk up the Kansas city Playoffs game 388 yards, 2 TDs is stinking up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: 388 yards, 2 TDs is stinking up? He didn't win, and wins are a QB stat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, ronjon1990 said: He didn't win, and wins are a QB stat... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, ET80 said: Wins aren't a QB stat. And... quit avoiding my question. I answered Now answer these two questions How comeDeshaun is only 500 against are division How come Deshaun has a much lower qb rating then Mayfield in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 4/8/2022 at 8:56 AM, ET80 said: Still waiting @mtmmike. QB1: 14/37, 144 yards, 0 TDs, 4 INTs. QB2: 24/42, 232 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs. Who won this game? Guess @mtmmike doesn't have an answer. QB1 (Rex Grossman) beat QB2 (Matt Leinert) in a 24-23 Bears win. Turns out that Brian Urlacher, Devin Hester and Peanut Tillman are good at football, so they can win while their QB implodes with sub-50% passing and 4 INTs. So, THIS is why wins aren't a QB stat - because sometimes, Defense and Special Teams win games while a QB poops the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, mtmmike said: I answered No, you didn't. I answered for you, so you don't have to worry. 3 minutes ago, mtmmike said: How comeDeshaun is only 500 against are division Because... Wins aren't a QB stat. 3 minutes ago, mtmmike said: How come Deshaun has a much lower qb rating then Mayfield in the playoffs. Because Watson has played in more playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Stafford was a below .500 QB that had 3 playoff appearances in 12 seasons and got blown out in 2 of them. He also had 5000 yard season a level Deshaun will never see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, mtmmike said: He also had 5000 yard season a level Deshaun will never see. Deshaun had 4,800 yards in his last season with the Texans, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Are we really having a Watson/Baker debate, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Are we really having a Watson/Baker debate, lol. Yep. I don't know what life choices were made to get us into this situation, but here we are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, ET80 said: And... quit avoiding my question. To be fair, its a bad question. One off games are silly to use to prove an overarching point. "Exception to the rule" and all that jazz. QBs influence wins and losses more than anyone one singular position on the field. We all know that, its not debatable. But its like when people say "You put XYZ QB on the Jets and they will look worse"... No freaking duh. Because the team matters. Brady was a mid tier QB in 2019. Brady was back to being elite in 2020. Because the team matters. Which is why W/L is not a QB stat. Its more like a HC stat but if we were being 100% thorough its a GM stat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mtmmike said: He also had 5000 yard season a level Deshaun will never see. ?? Deshaun put up 5,267 yards in 2020 (4823/444 pass/rush) Staffords best year ('11) he put up 5,116 (5038/78). Edited April 12, 2022 by Soggust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: To be fair, its a bad question. One off games are silly to use to prove an overarching point. "Exception to the rule" and all that jazz. I have other examples (several, in fact) but it was the most blunt way to express my point of view. Using actual words was not working, as the last 25 pages show. Sometimes you gotta pull out the odd example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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