ET80 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Ok Mayfield beat 7 teams in the Nfc in the past 2 years Tua Whoever Seattle trots out Whoever Houston tries outs Whoever Pittsburgh trots out Plus 4 rookie qbs. How about Burrows who has lost all 3 head to games. Teddy Bridgewater There is 16. Wins aren’t a QB stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, ET80 said: Wins aren’t a QB stat. thank you have a good day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 7 hours ago, mtmmike said: Ok Mayfield beat 7 teams in the Nfc in the past 2 years Tua Whoever Seattle trots out Whoever Houston tries outs Whoever Pittsburgh trots out Plus 4 rookie qbs. How about Burrows who has lost all 3 head to games. Teddy Bridgewater There is 16. What conclusion are you drawing from this..? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: What conclusion are you drawing from this..? Excuses Prediction the do not win 13 games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 57 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Excuses Prediction the do not win 13 games this year. Wins aren’t a QB stat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bearerofnews Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 15 hours ago, ET80 said: Wins aren’t a QB stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 9:24 AM, ET80 said: Wins aren’t a QB stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) If wins aren't a QB stat, then why is the general consesus Montana > Marino, Brady > Manning and Kirk Cousins is a meme? I've noticed a trend where the people who say "wins aren't a QB stat" tend to be fans of loser franchises. Edited April 9, 2022 by biggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Elite QB Tier: 1. Patrick Mahomes 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Tom Brady 4. Josh Allen 5. Justin Herbert Outstanding QB Tier: 6. Joe Burrow 7. Russell Wilson 8. Deshaun Watson 9. Matt Stafford 10. Dak Prescott Above-Average QB Tier: 11. Lamar Jackson 12. Kyler Murray 13. Kirk Cousins 14. Derek Carr 15. Ryan Tannehil Average QB Tier: 16. Matt Ryan 17. Jimmy Garoppolo 18. Mac Jones 19. Baker Mayfield Below-Average QB Tier: 20. Jameis Winston 21. Jared Goff 22. Carson Wentz Developmental QB Tier: 23. Trevor Lawrence 24. Tua Tagovailoa 25. Jalen Hurts 26. Justin Fields Bridgegap QB Tier: 27. Teddy Bridgewater Developmental QB Tier: 28. Trey Lance 29. Zach Wilson 30. Davis Mills Bad Starting QB Tier: 31. Gardner Minshew 32. Mitch Trubisky Quality Backup QB Tier: 33. Daniel Jones 34. Marcus Mariota Developmental QB Tier: 35. Jordan Love Quality Backup QB Tier: 36. Taylor Heinicke Fixed the tiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) On 4/3/2022 at 10:40 PM, RTTRUTH said: Still a fun exercise. Really there were about 2-3 good debates, like Stafford vs Dak. Dak has better stats than like the 3-5 guy above him over the last 3 years combined. No one thought Stafford was better than Dak until Stafford got on a super team. "Stafford cant win/perform without elite talent propping him up" <= Yall said it about Dak for 6 years. Why not Stafford? Edited April 9, 2022 by Matts4313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, biggie. said: If wins aren't a QB stat, then why is the general consesus Montana > Marino, Brady > Manning and Kirk Cousins is a meme? I've noticed a trend where the people who say "wins aren't a QB stat" tend to be fans of loser franchises. Because fans aren’t particularly intelligent human beings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, biggie. said: If wins aren't a QB stat, then why is the general consesus Montana > Marino, Brady > Manning and Kirk Cousins is a meme? I've noticed a trend where the people who say "wins aren't a QB stat" tend to be fans of loser franchises. In order, I used to say: Montana had the GOAT career, but Marino was the better QB Brady now has the GOAT career, but Manning was the better (regular season) QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: In order, I used to say: Montana had the GOAT career, but Marino was the better QB Brady now has the GOAT career, but Manning was the better (regular season) QB. Marino may have been more talented but Montana was the better overall player. In a big game where I need one to step up in crunch time, I'm taking Montana. Manning wasn't even the better regular season QB. From 2007 onwards Brady put up similar numbers. Edited April 9, 2022 by biggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, biggie. said: Manning wasn't even the better regular season QB. From 2007 onwards Brady put up similar numbers. So if we cherry pick starting at Bradys best season and going through the years with Mannings worst year, they are equal? Got it. Now do the same exercise but opposite. Start at the beginning of their careers through 2014. Now Manning makes Brady look like a second class player. Edited April 9, 2022 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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