nugpimpen Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, AkronsWitness said: I wonder how much every other front office in the NFL hates Andrew Berry right now between the GTD money with Ward/Watson lol Could not possibly care less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Excellent signing now Deshaun will not have any excuses for delivering 13 wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, nugpimpen said: Could not possibly care less. Well, depends on if it irritates them enough not to do business with us. Also, there is a reason (cap, player regression) that teams don't like guaranteeing that much money. As long as you are confident that the player lives up to the contract and can stay healthy there shouldn't be an issue but teams like to protect themselves in the event that it does happen, so I get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 As long as he stays healthy he'll almost certainly be worth the contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, AkronsWitness said: I wonder how much every other front office in the NFL hates Andrew Berry right now between the GTD money with Ward/Watson lol Hopefully not enough that all 31 of them stand together in and make us carry an $18 million dollar QB that doesn't dress on game day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugpimpen Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Thomas5737 said: Well, depends on if it irritates them enough not to do business with us. Also, there is a reason (cap, player regression) that teams don't like guaranteeing that much money. As long as you are confident that the player lives up to the contract and can stay healthy there shouldn't be an issue but teams like to protect themselves in the event that it does happen, so I get it. I'm not concerned about the league banding together to not do business with us. You know who probably does like how we are structuring contracts? Players and future free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Is Clowney now officially off the table? We cant possibly have the cap room to resign him to anything more than a incentive based 1 year deal can we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, nugpimpen said: I'm not concerned about the league banding together to not do business with us. You know who probably does like how we are structuring contracts? Players and future free agents. Of course they do. The problem would be if Watson hurts his arm and it turns into Chad Pennington's arm and you have to dedicate 55 million per year to your backup QB. What if Ward misses on average 9 games per year the next 3 years and you want to move on? You can't. Sorry free agents, we would love to sign you but we have 75 million wrapped up in players who don't see the field. Obviously that's worst case (for the most part) scenario but that's what teams try to protect themselves from. I understand doing what you have to do to get a player to sign but I also understand wanting to give yourself a chance at a backup plan if it doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: Is Clowney now officially off the table? We cant possibly have the cap room to resign him to anything more than a incentive based 1 year deal can we I suspect that was always the plan. I'm guessing Ward is cheap in year one so we could do a 2 year deal with Clowney if we rework some salaries for next year. 2024 is going to be interesting with the cap. We have 7 guys that currently would count for about 170 million against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Is Clowney now officially off the table? We cant possibly have the cap room to resign him to anything more than a incentive based 1 year deal can we You might be right. Whatever money we have left should go to Will Fuller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 The front office could try a super cheap option like Jerry Hughes / Melvin Ingram for 1 year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: I suspect that was always the plan. I'm guessing Ward is cheap in year one so we could do a 2 year deal with Clowney if we rework some salaries for next year. 2024 is going to be interesting with the cap. We have 7 guys that currently would count for about 170 million against the cap. Yeah and I noticed we signed Weatherly. Which shouldn't go under the radar. He was with KS in MINN and flashed at times last year in DEN. At worst he is a good rotational DE who can make some plays. I could early see them spending their 2nd/3rd on a DE and having whoever that is rotate with Weatherly Edited April 19, 2022 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Yeah and I noticed we signed Weatherly. Which shouldn't go under the radar. He was with KS in MINN and flashed at times last year in DEN. At worst he is a good rotational DE who can make some plays. I could early see them spending their 2nd/3rd on a DE and having whoever that is rotate with Weatherly We also have Winovich as a rotational guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Just now, Thomas5737 said: We also have Winovich as a rotational guy. Forgot about him, yeah it looks like the browns will have some good depth/injury protection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Forgot about him, yeah it looks like the browns will have some good depth/injury protection They aren't Clowney in any way but I think we need more work on our IDL than edge. If we give up 5.5 yards per carry that will nullify our investments in our secondary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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