RedGold Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I'm not sure I trust those stats as a whole. And the OL didn't gain a degree of control, if anything it changed because the coaching staff realized they were getting owned and starting moving Mahomes and the pocket. Mahomes and the coaching staff making it work doesn't mean the OL started playing better. That's a good DL, but I would expect a lot better from our OL and hopefully the coaching staff does also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, RedGold said: I'm not sure I trust those stats as a whole. And the OL didn't gain a degree of control, if anything it changed because the coaching staff realized they were getting owned and starting moving Mahomes and the pocket. Mahomes and the coaching staff making it work doesn't mean the OL started playing better. That's a good DL, but I would expect a lot better from our OL and hopefully the coaching staff does also. Look, I get the feeling, as I felt on first watch that the OL struggled all night well. But I'm telling you, on rewatch and statistically, it wasn't nearly as bad as it felt. It was a pretty okay night against a great DL. It wasn't great, and they still lost some bad ones even considering the competition (Trey Smith especially), but this is one of those things that's magnified by how much we passed, and the fact that honestly, everyone thinks their OL sucks. Save for maybe like, Eagle fans this year. It's a position where the 1 or 2 bad blocks stand out more than the 25 routine ones. The one sack allowed is more memorable than all the times nothing of note happened up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: Look, I get the feeling, as I felt on first watch that the OL struggled all night well. But I'm telling you, on rewatch and statistically, it wasn't nearly as bad as it felt. It was a pretty okay night against a great DL. It wasn't great, and they still lost some bad ones even considering the competition (Trey Smith especially), but this is one of those things that's magnified by how much we passed, and the fact that honestly, everyone thinks their OL sucks. Save for maybe like, Eagle fans this year. It's a position where the 1 or 2 bad blocks stand out more than the 25 routine ones. The one sack allowed is more memorable than all the times nothing of note happened up front. Oh I don't think our OL is awful, it's much better than 80% of the league. I just think they had an awful game in both phases. It's all good, we can move on. I think those numbers are skewed by the coaching staff adjusting to their struggles. Which is fine, that is a good DL. But to say they played even well is a stretch imo. Mahomes definitely didn't have any faith in his pocket holding up... and some of that is warranted and some of that is just Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 hours ago, onejayhawk said: They hit hard early but we ground them down. Who were you looking at? I saw PM running for his life. The DB's didn't look back 'cause they had problems keeping up with our WR's. (which they did a pretty good job of really) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 hours ago, RedGold said: I'm not sure I trust those stats as a whole. And the OL didn't gain a degree of control, if anything it changed because the coaching staff realized they were getting owned and starting moving Mahomes and the pocket. Mahomes and the coaching staff making it work doesn't mean the OL started playing better. That's a good DL, but I would expect a lot better from our OL and hopefully the coaching staff does also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I only noticed around 3 times where he got beat. A better QB and WRs would have taken advantage. There's a lot there to be excited about though. Can't wait to see him against real NFL WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, mayanfootball said: Who were you looking at? I saw PM running for his life. The DB's didn't look back 'cause they had problems keeping up with our WR's. (which they did a pretty good job of really) I didn't. This was not at all like the Super Bowl. Mahomes had 450 yards and the interception was tipped. That's an adjustment, not desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I was complaining about the WR rotation during the game. Here's the snap counts for them (92 max): Quote JuJu: 79 total - 63 pass - 16 run (12 targets) MVS: 66 total - 51 pass - 15 run (1 target) Hardman: 51 total - 41 pass - 10 run (9 targets) Watson: 24 total - 19 pass - 5 run (5 targets) Moore: 22 total - 18 pass - 4 run (1 target) Toney: 7 total - 5 pass - 2 run (2 targets) What happened to MVS in the game? He was invisible considering how much he played. I'd be curious to do some digging -- and I may next week when I have some free time -- but Hardman (22%) and Watson (26%) both seem to get targeted at a high percentage when they're out there on pass plays. I peeked at week 7 where Hardman was targeted on 19% of his pass snaps and Watson was on 25% of his pass snaps. Might find something interesting there, idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 These are the snap counts. Offense All Pass Run Total 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) Orlando Brown Jr. 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) Creed Humphrey 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) Patrick Mahomes 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) Trey Smith 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) Joe Thuney 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) Andrew Wylie 92 (100%) 72 (100%) 20 (100%) JuJu Smith-Schuster 79 (86%) 63 (88%) 16 (80%) Travis Kelce 75 (82%) 62 (86%) 13 (65%) Marquez Valdes-Scantling 66 (72%) 51 (71%) 15 (75%) Jerick McKinnon 58 (63%) 49 (68%) 9 (45%) Mecole Hardman 51 (55%) 41 (57%) 10 (50%) Noah Gray 37 (40%) 26 (36%) 11 (55%) Justin Watson 24 (26%) 19 (26%) 5 (25%) Skyy Moore 22 (24%) 18 (25%) 4 (20%) Isiah Pacheco 20 (22%) 14 (19%) 6 (30%) Clyde Edwards-Helaire 14 (15%) 9 (13%) 5 (25%) Kadarius Toney 7 (8%) 5 (7%) 2 (10%) Michael Burton 5 (5%) 2 (3%) 3 (15%) Nick Allegretti 2 (2%) 1 (1%) 1 (5%) Defense Defense All Pass Run Total 48 (100%) 19 (100%) 29 (100%) Nick Bolton 48 (100%) 19 (100%) 29 (100%) L'Jarius Sneed 48 (100%) 19 (100%) 29 (100%) Juan Thornhill 48 (100%) 19 (100%) 29 (100%) Justin Reid 47 (98%) 19 (100%) 28 (97%) Chris Jones 46 (96%) 19 (100%) 27 (93%) Trent McDuffie 46 (96%) 19 (100%) 27 (93%) Michael Danna 40 (83%) 15 (79%) 25 (86%) Willie Gay Jr. 34 (71%) 8 (42%) 26 (90%) George Karlaftis 32 (67%) 16 (84%) 16 (55%) Carlos Dunlap 30 (63%) 16 (84%) 14 (48%) Leo Chenal 21 (44%) 7 (37%) 14 (48%) Derrick Nnadi 19 (40%) 4 (21%) 15 (52%) Joshua Williams 19 (40%) 9 (47%) 10 (34%) Khalen Saunders 18 (38%) 4 (21%) 14 (48%) Bryan Cook 12 (25%) 10 (53%) 2 (7%) Malik Herring 7 (15%) 2 (11%) 5 (17%) Jaylen Watson 6 (13%) 3 (16%) 3 (10%) Taylor Stallworth 4 (8%) 0 (0%) 4 (14%) Darius Harris 3 (6%) 1 (5%) 2 (7%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefs82 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 That win over Tennessee looking better each week. Head-to-head win looking huge for the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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