MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 2017 to present Tight Ends (after the whole "move" TE craze started) OJ Howard 19th (2017 draft) 1,847 17 Evan Engram 23rd (2017 draft) 3,180 17 David Njoku 29th (2017 draft) 2,189 16 Robert Tonyan (2017 undrafted) 1,309 16 Hayden Hurst 25th 1,607 14 T.J. Hockensen 8th 2138 15 Noah Fant 20th 2,177 11 Kyle Pitts 1,382 3 Where is this can't miss prospect? Where is this move TE? Kyle Pitts has three career touchdowns in 27 games. Kyle Pitts has a 56.8% catch rate. He was targeted 110 times to get 68 catches in his first year. That's 61.8% catch rate on his rookie year as this big super duper badass TE. Robert Tonyan has never had a catch rate under 62.1% at any point in his career and he cost zero draft capital. And this is Robert Tonyan I'm using to compare against these recent first round draft picks. Robert Tonyan. An undrafted TE. Mark Andrews (86th overall) 4017 34 touchdowns Mark Andrews as a 3rd round pick has more receiving yards and more touchdowns on one less year than any two first round tight ends from the previous year. Goedert, Ertz, Dissly, Freirmuth, Higbee, Conklin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tperk Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: 2017 to present Tight Ends (after the whole "move" TE craze started) OJ Howard 19th (2017 draft) 1,847 17 Evan Engram 23rd (2017 draft) 3,180 17 David Njoku 29th (2017 draft) 2,189 16 Robert Tonyan (2017 undrafted) 1,309 16 Hayden Hurst 25th 1,607 14 T.J. Hockensen 8th 2138 15 Noah Fant 20th 2,177 11 Kyle Pitts 1,382 3 Where is this can't miss prospect? Where is this move TE? Kyle Pitts has three career touchdowns in 27 games. Kyle Pitts has a 56.8% catch rate. He was targeted 110 times to get 68 catches in his first year. That's 61.8% catch rate on his rookie year as this big super duper badass TE. Robert Tonyan has never had a catch rate under 62.1% at any point in his career and he cost zero draft capital. And this is Robert Tonyan I'm using to compare against these recent first round draft picks. Robert Tonyan. An undrafted TE. Mark Andrews (86th overall) 4017 34 touchdowns Mark Andrews as a 3rd round pick has more receiving yards and more touchdowns on one less year than any two first round tight ends from the previous year. Goedert, Ertz, Dissly, Freirmuth, Higbee, Conklin... So are we going to have to trade up to get Mayer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 It’s all there. It’s not subjective, it’s not opinion, it’s not some musings of someone who hates the TE position. TE is probably my favorite position to watch on the offense. A great one is a thing of beauty. The best have to have that grit in them as well as the agility. Kelce and Gronkowski would both probably be my favorite Packers of all time if they’d been Packers. I’d rather have a great TE than a great receiver. But I’m not an idiot and I know that their value is not as great and conducive towards Super Bowl wins as OT, QB, RB, EDGE, DB, DL or probably not even as valuable as ILB, IOL. They rank close to dead last. Kicker, punter and MAYBE receiver are below them. If I could pick an elite player - I was guaranteed to have an elite player with my pick - I go every single position except for kicker or punter before I go TE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 With Watson coming back, this virtually guarantees the Browns finish with a better record. Huge win for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Wish the Jaguars could've held onto that lead. Hoping for a miracle. Jaguars could finish better than us, too. Lions and Texans are the only two possible wins left for them that I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 TREVOR FRANCHISE QB LAWRENCE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 A Jaguars win would be so, so, so huge for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 TREVOR LAWRENCE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: With Watson coming back, this virtually guarantees the Browns finish with a better record. Huge win for us. With a loss plus a Rams, Cardinals, Raiders, and Saints win, we'd be set to pick 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: With a loss plus a Rams, Cardinals, Raiders, and Saints win, we'd be set to pick 9th. Rams won't win. Cardinals, Raiders and Saints could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Pederson, what are you doing man? Why would you squib that ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Whew. Jaguars need three more wins to finish better than us I figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Good day for our seeding so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Good day for our seeding so far Definitely better than I anticipated. Was hoping the Bears would squeeze out a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Definitely better than I anticipated. Was hoping the Bears would squeeze out a win. On the plus side, bears have a higher SOS than us now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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