NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, BackinBlack said: Raiders Browns - 15 Carries 52 yards, 3.5 yards per carry 3 catches 42 yards, 0 TDS. . . . Carried? Raiders Broncos - 27 Carries, 129 yards, 4.8 yards per carry 1 catch -5 yards, 0 TDs. . . . Raiders Colts - 16 carries, 63 yards, 4 catches 17 yards, 1 TD Raiders Chargers = 26 carries, 132 yards, 2 catches 12 yards, 1 TD Raider browns, under 4 yards per carry? 50 rushing yards? This is a weak as F carry broski. Colts, nothing to special. No way that you can watch the Broncos/Chargers games and tell me that Jacobs didn't absolutely carry the offense. Carr was not good at all down the stretch last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: No way that you can watch the Broncos/Chargers games and tell me that Jacobs didn't absolutely carry the offense. Carr was not good at all down the stretch last season. So are you changing it from 32 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He absolutely carried the offense last year down the stretch when Carr regressed and played like doo doo. To, JJ carried us 2 games down the stretch? Thats fine, but very different from absolsutely carried the offense down the stretch when carr regressed and played like doo doo If you think 20/25 for 200 yards 1 td / 1 int, vs a very good D is doo doo, you are out of your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: So are you changing it from To, JJ carried us 2 games down the stretch? Thats fine, but very different from absolsutely carried the offense down the stretch when carr regressed and played like doo doo If you think 20/25 for 200 yards 1 td / 1 int, vs a very good D is doo doo, you are out of your mind. Who was our best player down the stretch? Jacobs. Who's production increased when the games meant the most? Jacobs. Who's production fell significantly when we needed to win games? Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Even the Chargers, Carr threw 2 TDs and 0 ints . . Far from Doo Doo as YOU claimed. So Jacobs two games that youve now changed your position too, from down the stretch, Carr at least played decent. 38 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He absolutely carried the offense last year down the stretch when Carr regressed and played like doo doo. So again, Jacobs did not carry the offense last year down the stretch. He had 2 very good / great games, in both of which Carr played well Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, BackinBlack said: Even the Chargers, Carr threw 2 TDs and 0 ints . . Far from Doo Doo as YOU claimed. So Jacobs two games that youve now changed your position too, from down the stretch, Carr at least played decent. So again, Jacobs did not carry the offense last year down the stretch. He had 2 very good / great games, in both of which Carr played well Cheers! Carr certainly balled out battling with Nick Mullins, Drew Lock, and Carson Wentz with zero practice reps or OL playing. Dude is the savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Who was our best player down the stretch? Jacobs. Who's production increased when the games meant the most? Jacobs. Who's production fell significantly when we needed to win games? Carr. I am not arguing any of that, I am not playing your goal post moving games. Do the stats of the Browns and Colts game literally make you think Jacobs was carrying a team? Under 4 yards a carry and no TDs? 39 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He absolutely carried the offense last year down the stretch when Carr regressed and played like doo doo. I am arguing this ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: Carr certainly balled out battling with Nick Mullins, Drew Lock, and Carson Wentz with zero practice reps or OL playing. Dude is the savior. Classic. Didnt say anything about this. 1. Carr doesnt play against the other teams QB or Oline, he plays against their Defense. also Hate to break it to you, but you could replace Carr with Jacobs too in that sentence 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BackinBlack said: I am not arguing any of that, I am not playing your goal post moving games. Do the stats of the Browns and Colts game literally make you think Jacobs was carrying a team? Under 4 yards a carry and no TDs? I am arguing this ^ We don't beat the Colts, Chargers, or Broncos without Jacobs raising his level of play and running hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: I am arguing this ^ The passing offense fell off a cliff and we struggled to score at all over the last portion of the season. Carr wasn't to blame though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: The passing offense fell off a cliff and we struggled to score at all over the last portion of the season. Carr wasn't to blame though. Jacobs also failed to score in 2 of the 4 games you say he carried us in. Carr did score though. JAcobs best games, Broncos and Chargers, where he carried us, you say carr played like doo doo. Carr did not play terrible against the broncos or chargers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We don't beat the Colts, Chargers, or Broncos without Jacobs raising his level of play and running hard. 100% agreed. Never argued that. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, BackinBlack said: Jacobs also failed to score in 2 of the 4 games you say he carried us in. Carr did score though. JAcobs best games, Broncos and Chargers, where he carried us, you say carr played like doo doo. Carr did not play terrible against the broncos or chargers. You're right, Jacobs didn't carry us and Carr was very good down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: You're right, Jacobs didn't carry us and Carr was very good down the stretch. lmao again, I didnt say that. If you want to believe that, you are own your own. But thats your decision. lets not move the goal posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Wins and losses are QB stats, unless you're Carr, then only the losses count and wins are automatically attributed to other players. Come on @BackinBlack, you know this lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Wins and losses are QB stats, unless you're Carr, then only the losses count and wins are automatically attributed to other players. Come on @BackinBlack, you know this lol Wins and losses count for him as well, it's just unfortunate he has more losses through 9 seasons than any player in the history of the sport. Early on last season Carr was definitely the driving force as to why we were winning, he was passing at a crazy high volume and was elite in the clutch. Later in the season his production started to fade and our run game/defense won us games. Edited November 22, 2022 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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