Woz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 15 hours ago, turtle28 said: They produced Tyler Lockett One guy? That's what you're going to hang your hat on? Even a crappy team like UVA has produced more players to the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thaiphoon said: And Cook has been out quite a bit too. I'd still rather see them attempt to run though. If I'm a coach, I'd rather run with a poor OL than ask them to pass block. Last year Cook misses almost the entire season and LaTavius Murray had a decent year. Their OL is not any worse than it was last year. DeFilipo just didn’t commit to trying to run the ball. Edited December 12, 2018 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, turtle28 said: Last year Cook misses almost the entire season and Murray has a decent year. Their OL is not any worse than it was last year. DeFilipo just didn’t commit to trying to run the ball. I'm not disagreeing with you on this, except the OL is worse than last year. The rest we agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Woz said: One guy? That's what you're going to hang your hat on? Even a crappy team like UVA has produced more players to the NFL. Brandon Banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Thaiphoon said: I'm not disagreeing with you on this, except the OL is worse than last year. The rest we agree Yeah, I’m not so sure about that and if their OL is worse it’s probably bc they are paying so much for their starting QB and can’t afford more than vet minimum starters in a few spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, turtle28 said: Brandon Banks. Almost ten years ago. When you're having to go back that far to justify a team's bonafides, they kind of suck. However, to help you out: Kansas State Year Round Pick Player Name Team Position 2018 5 5 142 D.J. Reed 49ers DB 2017 3 9 73 Jordan Willis Bengals LB 7 14 232 Elijah Lee Vikings LB 2016 2 25 56 Cody Whitehair Bears G 2015 3 5 69 Tyler Lockett Seahawks WR 6 20 196 Randall Evans Eagles DB 2014 6 26 202 Tavon Rooks Saints T 2013 2 24 56 Arthur Brown Ravens LB 4 26 123 Chris Harper Seahawks WR 6 36 204 Braden Wilson Chiefs RB 2012 7 22 229 Bryce Brown Eagles RB 2011 2 30 62 Daniel Thomas Dolphins RB 2010 5 10 141 Joshua Moore Bears DB Comparison to other (current) Big XII teams since 2010: Baylor: 27 (1 was a supplemental pick (Josh Gordon)) Iowa State: 5 Oklahoma: 46 Oklahoma State: 18 Kansas: 8 TCU: 24 Texas: 27 Texas Tech: 10 West Virginia: 25 So, again I ask: what has K-State done to warrant consideration beyond a glorified high school team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thaiphoon Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Woz said: One guy? That's what you're going to hang your hat on? Even a crappy team like UVA has produced more players to the NFL. 44 minutes ago, Woz said: Almost ten years ago. When you're having to go back that far to justify a team's bonafides, they kind of suck. However, to help you out: Kansas State Year Round Pick Player Name Team Position 2018 5 5 142 D.J. Reed 49ers DB 2017 3 9 73 Jordan Willis Bengals LB 7 14 232 Elijah Lee Vikings LB 2016 2 25 56 Cody Whitehair Bears G 2015 3 5 69 Tyler Lockett Seahawks WR 6 20 196 Randall Evans Eagles DB 2014 6 26 202 Tavon Rooks Saints T 2013 2 24 56 Arthur Brown Ravens LB 4 26 123 Chris Harper Seahawks WR 6 36 204 Braden Wilson Chiefs RB 2012 7 22 229 Bryce Brown Eagles RB 2011 2 30 62 Daniel Thomas Dolphins RB 2010 5 10 141 Joshua Moore Bears DB Comparison to other (current) Big XII teams since 2010: Baylor: 27 (1 was a supplemental pick (Josh Gordon)) Iowa State: 5 Oklahoma: 46 Oklahoma State: 18 Kansas: 8 TCU: 24 Texas: 27 Texas Tech: 10 West Virginia: 25 So, again I ask: what has K-State done to warrant consideration beyond a glorified high school team? Hell, JMU probably had more current players on NFL teams than KState. This was as of Week 1 this year... 2018 NFL DukesDaniel Brown (2011-14) – Chicago Bears Rashard Davis (2013-16) – Philadelphia Eagles Raven Greene (2013-17) – Green Bay Packers Dean Marlowe (2010-14) – Buffalo Bills Arthur Moats (2005-09) – Arizona CardinalsAaron Stinnie (2013-17) – Tennessee Titans Earl Watford (2008-12) – Cleveland Browns Josh Wells (2009-13) – Jacksonville Jaguars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Thaiphoon said: Hell, JMU probably had more current players on NFL teams than KState. This was as of Week 1 this year... 2018 NFL DukesDaniel Brown (2011-14) – Chicago Bears Rashard Davis (2013-16) – Philadelphia Eagles Raven Greene (2013-17) – Green Bay Packers Dean Marlowe (2010-14) – Buffalo Bills Arthur Moats (2005-09) – Arizona CardinalsAaron Stinnie (2013-17) – Tennessee Titans Earl Watford (2008-12) – Cleveland Browns Josh Wells (2009-13) – Jacksonville Jaguars I started off putting JMU on there, but pulled it back because I didn't want you to think I was picking on JMU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Bryce Brown was a handcuff pick for plenty of fantasy players. I remember grabbing him one year and getting a decent trade haul because the owner who had the starter was desperate for the handcuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Woz said: Almost ten years ago. When you're having to go back that far to justify a team's bonafides, they kind of suck. However, to help you out: Kansas State Year Round Pick Player Name Team Position 2018 5 5 142 D.J. Reed 49ers DB 2017 3 9 73 Jordan Willis Bengals LB 7 14 232 Elijah Lee Vikings LB 2016 2 25 56 Cody Whitehair Bears G 2015 3 5 69 Tyler Lockett Seahawks WR 6 20 196 Randall Evans Eagles DB 2014 6 26 202 Tavon Rooks Saints T 2013 2 24 56 Arthur Brown Ravens LB 4 26 123 Chris Harper Seahawks WR 6 36 204 Braden Wilson Chiefs RB 2012 7 22 229 Bryce Brown Eagles RB 2011 2 30 62 Daniel Thomas Dolphins RB 2010 5 10 141 Joshua Moore Bears DB Comparison to other (current) Big XII teams since 2010: Baylor: 27 (1 was a supplemental pick (Josh Gordon)) Iowa State: 5 Oklahoma: 46 Oklahoma State: 18 Kansas: 8 TCU: 24 Texas: 27 Texas Tech: 10 West Virginia: 25 So, again I ask: what has K-State done to warrant consideration beyond a glorified high school team? I was joking about Banks. Again, I’m sorry you went through all this work to prove something to me that didn’t need to be proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 14 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: Bryce Brown was a handcuff pick for plenty of fantasy players. I remember grabbing him one year and getting a decent trade haul because the owner who had the starter was desperate for the handcuff. "Desperate fantasy owner does stupid things. Story at 11." If not for this trade, would you have recognized the guy's name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 14 hours ago, turtle28 said: I was joking about Banks. Again, I’m sorry you went through all this work to prove something to me that didn’t need to be proven. Sorry, that didn't come through. (there's a reason why I drop a bunch of 's when I'm joking around) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 LMAO! How is Stephen A Smith still employed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I miss Kendall Fuller 😐 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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