Whicker Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, MWil23 said: But last game, you had a PoE based off of a NL vote, this was the inverse of that. That was the end result, sure. But the initial reasoning was the same. No one was participating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Anyone who targeted mwil last night should definitely come forward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Part of the annoying thing about these vote counts is how Forge and gopher consistently voted off of the major trains. Not sure which is scummier, voting for the wrong train or avoiding either train. Ultimately doesn't really help to narrow down the suspect pool it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: i jailed Rack last night as the only cleared town and the even night BG dead So for certain 2 people did not use a move on me...I think it's Whicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, MWil23 said: So for certain 2 people did not use a move on me...I think it's Whicker It’s not. There’s no way I’d claim on a living player like that as scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Whicker said: It counts your move, if any, as well So, even if it does, which seems weird for a motion detector: My move A scum redirect We know BCB and Rack didn't use one on me, so there's that. Granted, some variations allow that, but it's also ambiguous as to whether or not your move counts. That said, there's another big reason why I have a hard time buying 4 moves...considering, you know, X shots as well as odd/even flips and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: So for certain 2 people did not use a move on me...I think it's Whicker to be fair you used one you were redirected whicker used his on you so that's three already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, rackcs said: Part of the annoying thing about these vote counts is how Forge and gopher consistently voted off of the major trains. Not sure which is scummier, voting for the wrong train or avoiding either train. Ultimately doesn't really help to narrow down the suspect pool it seems. Forge 2.0 at least voted on the main train ONCE, which is a positive sign. Lemme go back and look real quick for a summary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, bcb1213 said: to be fair you used one you were redirected whicker used his on you so that's three already 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: Granted, some variations allow that, but it's also ambiguous as to whether or not your move counts. That said, there's another big reason why I have a hard time buying 4 moves...considering, you know, X shots as well as odd/even flips and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: So, even if it does, which seems weird for a motion detector: My move A scum redirect We know BCB and Rack didn't use one on me, so there's that. Granted, some variations allow that, but it's also ambiguous as to whether or not your move counts. That said, there's another big reason why I have a hard time buying 4 moves...considering, you know, X shots as well as odd/even flips and all. I think it's normal for it to count your move as part of the motion detection. I'm not sure about Whicker's move counting, I'm not familiar enough with the role to know if that's normal. Still plenty of unaccounted people left though to make up for the other 2 moves. It's why we need claims now from people. @gopherwrestler @Llamalover @JoshstraDaymus We'll be needing full claims, it's that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Okay since our you-know-whats are in a vise, I'm going to track votes to try to look at some people I think are Town learns: Day 1 Final VC: Gopher and BCB look really good here, Josh, Forge 2.0, and obviously scum Malf look really bad. *Noteworthy Llama and Whicker weird NL votes with Wolf throwing his away Day 2 Final VC: Llama came in late with a Nacho swing vote, but so did BCB and Dome. This looks good for Forge 2.0 *Noteworthy Whicker looks bad again, Gopher and Josh nowhere to be seen 18 minutes ago, MWil23 said: D3: Whicker's vote stood out more and went from putting Orca 1 ahead to 2+ ahead with the swings after me. Llama looks good but could be WIFOM. Forge and Gopher with bad throwaway votes. 17 minutes ago, MWil23 said: D4: Malf perhaps using WIFOM to try to distance from Whicker? D1: Gopher and BCB look GOOD, Josh and Forge look BAD; Whicker and Llama look bad D2: Forge looks good, Llama looks BAD D3: Llama looks good or WIFOM; Forge and Gopher look BAD D4: Malf using WIFOM on Whicker? So, TL;DR based off of voting: Forge's best case for him is his D2 close vote, town lean. BCB based off of D1, Town lean If scum is an inactive, I'd start with Llama. If scum is an active, I'd start with Whicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, rackcs said: I think it's normal for it to count your move as part of the motion detection. I'm not sure about Whicker's move counting, I'm not familiar enough with the role to know if that's normal. Still plenty of unaccounted people left though to make up for the other 2 moves. It's why we need claims now from people. @gopherwrestler @Llamalover @JoshstraDaymus We'll be needing full claims, it's that time @Forge as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 My move counts. And yes we need to hear from the inactives, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Llama until he checks in. The voting is pretty egregious and as good of a place to start as any. I still stand by my major suspicion of Whicker, but assuming his MD tracks mine and his, that would be 3 out of 4. Any town who made a move on me should come forward immediately. Dark horse possibility that Dome put in a move to track me even night for a 4th move, but truthfully I have no idea how a host reconcile's that with a scum hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: D1: Gopher and BCB look GOOD, Josh and Forge look BAD; Whicker and Llama look bad D2: Forge looks good, Llama looks BAD D3: Llama looks good or WIFOM; Forge and Gopher look BAD D4: Malf using WIFOM on Whicker? So, TL;DR based off of voting: Forge's best case for him is his D2 close vote, town lean. BCB based off of D1, Town lean If scum is an inactive, I'd start with Llama. If scum is an active, I'd start with Whicker. I feel like Josh looks really bad in the Orca/wolf vote as well. Iirc, the vote was tied up at one point with around 6 apiece and Josh is the 6th vote on Orca. Seems like he was one of the votes on their in a pivotal lynch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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