Just Want A Title Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, General Tso said: @Karnage84 You can add Kendre Miller and OCyrus Torrence to the top 30 visits Kendre Miller is a very solid RB prospect. His MCL injury has limited his participation in pre-draft evaluations and maybe pushed down his draft stock a bit. He would be a very good addition to our RB room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, General Tso said: @Karnage84 You can add Kendre Miller and OCyrus Torrence to the top 30 visits Will do. So if we add up all of the "confirmed" (I say this loosely because I had assumed Carter already had come based on the lists and he didn't until much later) and the rumoured, the Lions should be at 30 visits now. Whether there's a distinction between "Private Workout" and a "Private Visit" in the Top 30 or if they can do virtual visits.. it's hard to say. I'd also be mindful of teammates of lower end guys at same positions being brought in. We brought in Rodrigo's fellow OK State LB in last year for a look. We know that they will ask about teammates in their interview process (this has been referenced before). I'm interested in seeing if there's a connection in prior BH draft classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Just now, Karnage84 said: Will do. So if we add up all of the "confirmed" (I say this loosely because I had assumed Carter already had come based on the lists and he didn't until much later) and the rumoured, the Lions should be at 30 visits now. Whether there's a distinction between "Private Workout" and a "Private Visit" in the Top 30 or if they can do virtual visits.. it's hard to say. I'd also be mindful of teammates of lower end guys at same positions being brought in. We brought in Rodrigo's fellow OK State LB in last year for a look. We know that they will ask about teammates in their interview process (this has been referenced before). I'm interested in seeing if there's a connection in prior BH draft classes. Just remember, none of us know anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) UPDATED - APRIL 19TH - Added Kendre Miller, O'Cyrus Torrence, Clark Phillips https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/3/3/23622661/2023-nfl-draft-detroit-lions-visit-tracker-combine-top-30-pro-day BOWL GAME/COMBINE VISITS Jordan Ferguson, DE, Middle Tennessee (Hula Bowl) Justin Broiles, S, Oklahoma (Tropical Bowl) Brandon Kipper, OL, Oregon State (NFLPA Bowl) Jamal Turner, TE, Toledo (Hula Bowl and Top 30) Andrew Farmer, DE, Lane (HBCU Combine) QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine) WR Quentin Johnston, TCU (NFL Combine) WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine) WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine) TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine) TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine) OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine) T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine) LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine) LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine) S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine) Julius Brents, CB, Kansas State (Combine via Walterfootball) Carrington Valentine, CB, Kentucky (Combine) (https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/detroit-lions-2023-pre-draft-visit-list) PRO DAYS QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day) RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day) WR Ronnie Bell, Michigan (Pro Day) OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day) DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day) LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day) CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day) Luke Schoonmaker, TE, Michigan (Pro Day) https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/ Carrington Valentine, CB, Kentucky (Pro Day) https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/ Nick Hampton, OLB, Appalachian State (Pro Day) https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/ Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois (Ind. Pro Day) Steven Jones, CB, Appalachian State (Pro Day) https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam LOCAL PRO DAY QB Taylor Powell, Eastern Michigan RB Lew Nichols III, Central Michigan TE Luke Schoonmaker, Michigan TE Joel Honigford, Michigan WR Ronnie Bell, Michigan WR Dylan Drummond, Eastern Michigan OL Ryan Hayes, Michigan OL Olu Oluwatimi, Michigan OL Quentin Barrow, Grand Valley State DT Mazi Smith, Michigan DT Mike Morris, Michigan DL Jose Ramirez, Eastern Michigan LB Isaac Darkangelo, Illinois LB Jalen Graham, Purdue LB Trevor Nowaske, Saginaw Valley State LB Lorenzo McCaskill, Kansas CB Nic Jones, Ball State CB DJ Turner, Michigan CB Gemon Green, Michigan CB NIck Whiteside, Saginaw Valley State S Kaevon Merriweather, Iowa P Bryce Baringer, Michigan State P Brad Robbins, Michigan TOP 30 (CONFIRMED/COMPLETED) QB Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (Top 30) - 6'3, 225, 23 yo G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit) G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit) https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green (Top 30 visit) EDGE BJ Thompson, Stephen F Austin (Top 30) Steve Avila, TCU, OG (https://sidelionreport.com/2023/03/29/detroit-lions-continue-focus-guards-pre-draft-visits/) Emmanuel Forbes, CB, Miss St (https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/28/detroit-lions-pre-draft-visit-emmanuel-forbes-mississippi-state-pro-day/) Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia (https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2023/03/28/detroit-lions-jalen-carter-nfl-draft-visit/70054966007/) Keaton Mitchell, RB, East Carolina (https://www.newsbreak.com/detroit-mi/2970495102412-updated-list-of-detroit-lions-2023-pre-draft-visits) Mark Evans II, OC/OG, Arkansas-Pine Bluff (Virtual) (https://www.newsbreak.com/detroit-mi/2970495102412-updated-list-of-detroit-lions-2023-pre-draft-visits) Will Anderson, Edge, Alabama (https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2023/04/04/nfl-draft-alabama-will-anderson-draft-visit-detroit-lions/70081131007/) Desjuan Johnson, DT, Toledo (https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/04/lions-nfl-draft-visits-desjuan-johnson-predraft-meeting/) Jamal Turner, TE, Toledo (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-top-30-visits-tracker-raiders-host-bryce-young-top-o-lineman-visits-steelers/) Brian Branch, S, Alabama (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-top-30-visits-tracker-raiders-host-bryce-young-top-o-lineman-visits-steelers/) CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State (https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/4/11/23679395/detroit-lions-hosting-cj-stroud-nfl-2023-draft-ohio-state-quarterback-top-30-visit) Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee (https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/4/7/23674757/2023-nfl-draft-detroit-lions-hendon-hooker-top-30-visit-tennessee-quarterback) Siaki Ika, NT, Baylor (https://heavy.com/sports/detroit-lions/siaki-ika-nfl-draft-visit-baylor-defensive-tackle/) Dakota Allen, TE, Eastern Kentucky (Virtual) https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Caleb Murphy, DE, Ferris State (Private Visit)https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia (Private Visit)https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Garrett Williams, CB, Syracuse (Private Visit)https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Kendre Miller, RB, TCU O'Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida Clark Phillips, CB, Utah (via Justin Rogers via Tom Pellissero) SCHEDULED VISITS/RUMOURED( https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/) Daniel Scott, S, California Jordan McFadden, OL, Clemson Tyree Wilson, Edge, Texas Tech Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utaha (via Adam Schefter) Drew Sanders, LB, Arkansas (via Dave Birkett) Hassan Hall, RB, Georgia Tech Total Scheduled + Rumoured = 29 Visits Edited April 19, 2023 by Karnage84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, General Tso said: Just remember, none of us know anything Which is interesting because they've had 3 workouts with Ronnie Bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 With respect to Kendre Miller, they probably wanted to check out his progress on his MCL injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: With respect to Kendre Miller, they probably wanted to check out his progress on his MCL injury. That would make sense. Interesting note, I was listening to Dane Brugler on The Athletic podcast and they were discussing how a number of these visits are actually intended to rule guys out. Everything lines up on paper but they're trying to see if this person really is a fit for them and there's enough question marks around it where they want to bring them in to really nail it down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: With respect to Kendre Miller, they probably wanted to check out his progress on his MCL injury. 6 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: That would make sense. Interesting note, I was listening to Dane Brugler on The Athletic podcast and they were discussing how a number of these visits are actually intended to rule guys out. Everything lines up on paper but they're trying to see if this person really is a fit for them and there's enough question marks around it where they want to bring them in to really nail it down. Yea I forgot where I read this, but a lot of times, the visits are medical related. They didn't have enough info from the combine or pro day, so they need to check up in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, General Tso said: Yea I forgot where I read this, but a lot of times, the visits are medical related. They didn't have enough info from the combine or pro day, so they need to check up in person. It would be interesting to see how many of these guys had reported medical issues during the process and line up with the Top 30 visits. The Lions have been to Florida a bunch of times so it would be interesting to see what happens with Torrence or any of the other Gators (including AR15). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: It would be interesting to see how many of these guys had reported medical issues during the process and line up with the Top 30 visits. The Lions have been to Florida a bunch of times so it would be interesting to see what happens with Torrence or any of the other Gators (including AR15). They might be curious about Gervon Dexter. He has NFL-ready strength and really good movement skills but his play has been inconsistent. It is tough to figure out if the inconsistency is because of scheme/coaching or if it is more to do with the player. Given the performance of Florida's defense and the lack of improvement across the board with a lot of their players, coaching and scheme could have been something that limited his development. He seems like a bit of an enigma. Edited April 19, 2023 by Just Want A Title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: They might be curious about Gervon Dexter. He has NFL-ready strength and really good movement skills but his play has been inconsistent. It is tough to figure out of the inconsistency is because of scheme/coaching or if it is more to do with the player. Given the performance of Florida's defense and the lack of improvement across the board with a lot of their players, coaching and scheme could have been something that limited his development. He seems like a bit of an enigma. This is exactly one of those scenarios where they bring in a prospect that is a teammate of someone they're interested in to get the teammate's angle on them. Sure, they could be looking at Torrence as well (since they do have a need) but asking him about Dexter would take any smoke off of their interest in the DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) UPDATED - APRIL 19TH - Added Kendre Miller, O'Cyrus Torrence, Clark Phillips, Jartavius Martin https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/3/3/23622661/2023-nfl-draft-detroit-lions-visit-tracker-combine-top-30-pro-day BOWL GAME/COMBINE VISITS Jordan Ferguson, DE, Middle Tennessee (Hula Bowl) Justin Broiles, S, Oklahoma (Tropical Bowl) Brandon Kipper, OL, Oregon State (NFLPA Bowl) Jamal Turner, TE, Toledo (Hula Bowl and Top 30) Andrew Farmer, DE, Lane (HBCU Combine) QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine) WR Quentin Johnston, TCU (NFL Combine) WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine) WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine) TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine) TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine) OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine) T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine) LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine) LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine) S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine) Julius Brents, CB, Kansas State (Combine via Walterfootball) Carrington Valentine, CB, Kentucky (Combine) (https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/detroit-lions-2023-pre-draft-visit-list) PRO DAYS QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day) RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day) WR Ronnie Bell, Michigan (Pro Day) OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day) DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day) LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day) CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day) Luke Schoonmaker, TE, Michigan (Pro Day) https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/ Carrington Valentine, CB, Kentucky (Pro Day) https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/ Nick Hampton, OLB, Appalachian State (Pro Day) https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/ Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois (Ind. Pro Day) Steven Jones, CB, Appalachian State (Pro Day) https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam LOCAL PRO DAY QB Taylor Powell, Eastern Michigan RB Lew Nichols III, Central Michigan TE Luke Schoonmaker, Michigan TE Joel Honigford, Michigan WR Ronnie Bell, Michigan WR Dylan Drummond, Eastern Michigan OL Ryan Hayes, Michigan OL Olu Oluwatimi, Michigan OL Quentin Barrow, Grand Valley State DT Mazi Smith, Michigan DT Mike Morris, Michigan DL Jose Ramirez, Eastern Michigan LB Isaac Darkangelo, Illinois LB Jalen Graham, Purdue LB Trevor Nowaske, Saginaw Valley State LB Lorenzo McCaskill, Kansas CB Nic Jones, Ball State CB DJ Turner, Michigan CB Gemon Green, Michigan CB NIck Whiteside, Saginaw Valley State S Kaevon Merriweather, Iowa P Bryce Baringer, Michigan State P Brad Robbins, Michigan TOP 30 (CONFIRMED/COMPLETED) QB Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (Top 30) - 6'3, 225, 23 yo G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit) G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit) https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green (Top 30 visit) EDGE BJ Thompson, Stephen F Austin (Top 30) Steve Avila, TCU, OG (https://sidelionreport.com/2023/03/29/detroit-lions-continue-focus-guards-pre-draft-visits/) Emmanuel Forbes, CB, Miss St (https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/28/detroit-lions-pre-draft-visit-emmanuel-forbes-mississippi-state-pro-day/) Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia (https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2023/03/28/detroit-lions-jalen-carter-nfl-draft-visit/70054966007/) Keaton Mitchell, RB, East Carolina (https://www.newsbreak.com/detroit-mi/2970495102412-updated-list-of-detroit-lions-2023-pre-draft-visits) Mark Evans II, OC/OG, Arkansas-Pine Bluff (Virtual) (https://www.newsbreak.com/detroit-mi/2970495102412-updated-list-of-detroit-lions-2023-pre-draft-visits) Will Anderson, Edge, Alabama (https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2023/04/04/nfl-draft-alabama-will-anderson-draft-visit-detroit-lions/70081131007/) Desjuan Johnson, DT, Toledo (https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/04/lions-nfl-draft-visits-desjuan-johnson-predraft-meeting/) Jamal Turner, TE, Toledo (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-top-30-visits-tracker-raiders-host-bryce-young-top-o-lineman-visits-steelers/) Brian Branch, S, Alabama (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-top-30-visits-tracker-raiders-host-bryce-young-top-o-lineman-visits-steelers/) CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State (https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/4/11/23679395/detroit-lions-hosting-cj-stroud-nfl-2023-draft-ohio-state-quarterback-top-30-visit) Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee (https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/4/7/23674757/2023-nfl-draft-detroit-lions-hendon-hooker-top-30-visit-tennessee-quarterback) Siaki Ika, NT, Baylor (https://heavy.com/sports/detroit-lions/siaki-ika-nfl-draft-visit-baylor-defensive-tackle/) Dakota Allen, TE, Eastern Kentucky (Virtual) https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Caleb Murphy, DE, Ferris State (Private Visit)https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia (Private Visit)https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Garrett Williams, CB, Syracuse (Private Visit)https://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam Kendre Miller, RB, TCU O'Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida Clark Phillips, CB, Utah (via Justin Rogers via Tom Pellissero) Jartavius Martin, S, Illinois (https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/18/lions-pre-draft-visit-illinois-jartavius-quan-martin/?itm_source=parsely-api) SCHEDULED VISITS/RUMOURED( https://nfltraderumors.co/2023-nfl-draft-visit-tracker/) Daniel Scott, S, California Jordan McFadden, OL, Clemson Tyree Wilson, Edge, Texas Tech Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utaha (via Adam Schefter) Drew Sanders, LB, Arkansas (via Dave Birkett) Hassan Hall, RB, Georgia Tech Total Scheduled + Rumoured = 31 Visits Edited April 19, 2023 by Karnage84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: Jartavius Martin, S, Illinois This feels like the "let's bring in a teammate of our draft selection in order to firm up our report on him". This could either be Devon Witherspoon (most likely) or Sydney Brown (less likely). Vegas has us picking Witherspoon at #6. Apparently there isn't an NFL team that has brought Calijah Kancey in for a visit - kind of shocking. Either teams really don't like him and he's off their boards or they like him so much that this is gamesmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Karnage84 said: This feels like the "let's bring in a teammate of our draft selection in order to firm up our report on him". This could either be Devon Witherspoon (most likely) or Sydney Brown (less likely). Vegas has us picking Witherspoon at #6. Apparently there isn't an NFL team that has brought Calijah Kancey in for a visit - kind of shocking. Either teams really don't like him and he's off their boards or they like him so much that this is gamesmanship. I don't think there is any intrigue with Kancey. He is what he is. At least from what I've heard from teams through interviews, they use the draft visits for questions they have (medical, character, not getting previous time with the player). He redshirted his freshman season, but he had 3 healthy college seasons after that. No real medical mystery. Kancey's biggest issue is size. It's on tape. It's at the combine. No interview will change or alter that. Edited April 20, 2023 by Louis Friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Karnage84 said: This feels like the "let's bring in a teammate of our draft selection in order to firm up our report on him". This could either be Devon Witherspoon (most likely) or Sydney Brown (less likely). Vegas has us picking Witherspoon at #6. Apparently there isn't an NFL team that has brought Calijah Kancey in for a visit - kind of shocking. Either teams really don't like him and he's off their boards or they like him so much that this is gamesmanship. Jartavius Martin is a really good prospect in his own right. We only have CJGJ and Will Harris on one-year deals. Jartavius Martin is a lot like CJGJ: He can play slot CB or S at a high level. Basically, he can play just about anywhere in the secondary. We might get a bit of deja vu by taking an Illinois DB in the 3rd round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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