3rivers Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, warfelg said: Offensive Heavy: 17 traded to LAC for 21, 158, 2024 2nd 21 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR OSU 32 - Anton Harrison OT Okalhoma 49 - Steve Avila OG TCU this looks to help for sure but I don't want to give up on Moore. I don't have the chart for pick values, but the trade down is a steal if they actually get that, the additional 2nd next year is major . All that for just moving down a few spots? Thats a nice move, I hope they pull something like that off especially if the 2nd ends up being 32 33 Pace would be a nice late pick though. What rounds does your simulator typically have Henley as well as Pappoe going ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ward4HOF Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, warfelg said: I kinda like this concept @Ward4HOF so I hope you don't mind me piggybacking off your concept here to throw up two of my own offense heavy/defensive heavy draft. Offensive Heavy: 17 traded to LAC for 21, 158, 2024 2nd 21 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR OSU 32 - Anton Harrison OT Okalhoma 49 - Steve Avila OG TCU 80 - Sam LaPorta TE Iowa 120 - Tre-Vius Hodges-Tomlinson CB TCU 158 - Dorian Williams LB Tulane 236 - Clayton Tune QB Houston 243 - Jalen Wayne WR South Alabama Defensive Heavy: 17 - Brian Branch S/CB Alabama 32 - Traded to BUF with 243 for 59, 139, 2024 2nd, 2024 4th 49 - Andre Carter II Edge Army 59 - Garrett Williams CB Syracuse 80 - Keeanu Benton DL Wisconsin 120 - Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson CB TCU 139 - Ivan Pace Jr LB Cincinnati 236 - Stenson Bennett QB Georgia Naw, man...not at all... I like the selections a little bit better in the first one--I think Dorian Williams can be very good in this league, and of course, I love the first 3 prospects...but I also dig Branch, Carter, and Benton, sooo...tough to decide and yeah, I think that 32nd/1st pick on Day 2 can be worth a lot...I bet Khan will have no less than a half-a-dozen offers for that pick, and should be able to squeeze a little bit more out of it than just the straight numbers equivalent on the chart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Ward4HOF said: Naw, man...not at all... I like the selections a little bit better in the first one--I think Dorian Williams can be very good in this league, and of course, I love the first 3 prospects...but I also dig Branch, Carter, and Benton, sooo...tough to decide and yeah, I think that 32nd/1st pick on Day 2 can be worth a lot...I bet Khan will have no less than a half-a-dozen offers for that pick, and should be able to squeeze a little bit more out of it than just the straight numbers equivalent on the chart! I did the math on it and I got 50 more points than the value for each one of those picks. Williams can be a hidden gem out of this draft. I know @43M doesn't like these mocks but it's fun sometimes to do these split leaning heavy one way or another. I really like our future of the offense with the offensive heavy, then 2024 FA we can use our cap space to go get some guys there. But at the same time that Branch, Carter, Williams, Benton start can be one of those cornerstone of a defense for a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, warfelg said: I kinda like this concept @Ward4HOF so I hope you don't mind me piggybacking off your concept here to throw up two of my own offense heavy/defensive heavy draft. Offensive Heavy: 17 traded to LAC for 21, 158, 2024 2nd 21 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR OSU 32 - Anton Harrison OT Okalhoma 49 - Steve Avila OG TCU 80 - Sam LaPorta TE Iowa 120 - Tre-Vius Hodges-Tomlinson CB TCU 158 - Dorian Williams LB Tulane 236 - Clayton Tune QB Houston 243 - Jalen Wayne WR South Alabama Defensive Heavy: 17 - Brian Branch S/CB Alabama 32 - Traded to BUF with 243 for 59, 139, 2024 2nd, 2024 4th 49 - Andre Carter II Edge Army 59 - Garrett Williams CB Syracuse 80 - Keeanu Benton DL Wisconsin 120 - Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson CB TCU 139 - Ivan Pace Jr LB Cincinnati 236 - Stenson Bennett QB Georgia Pace is the only player I like in draft #2 Carter has zero skills. Benton's highlight film is vs Minn, Northwestern and Rutgers. You watch him vs tOSU and Mich and it is brutal ( for him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, jebrick said: Pace is the only player I like in draft #2 Carter has zero skills. Benton's highlight film is vs Minn, Northwestern and Rutgers. You watch him vs tOSU and Mich and it is brutal ( for him) Would you prefer M.Smith DT instead of Benton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, 3rivers said: Would you prefer M.Smith DT instead of Benton? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, jebrick said: Yes. where do you see Smith getting drafted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, 3rivers said: where do you see Smith getting drafted? 3rd round. He is a run stuffer that offers next to nothing in the pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidersfan1 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Ward4HOF said: Which is why I LOVE Nolan Smith for us. He's a little light for the edge, but add 10 lbs, which his frame can accomodate, and he'll be just fine. But he also has the skillset to fit our ILB, if needed, or if it turns out that 3-4OLB isn't the best fit, but IMO, I think it is. Just read his profile... https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Nolan-Smith-LB-Georgia Maybe not a ton of sacks, but plenty of hurries... NO. He can't play edge. 6'3" 235 does not go up against 6'8" 365 with any reasonable chance of success. I feel comfortable with Dan Moore at LT against Nolan Smith. Like, quite comfortable. Not all bodies are the same. I say he's tapped out. Which is why I like him for his raw athletic tools in space as a 3-4 ILB. Really good pick at #32. Of course. No one cares for ILB and it does not translate to wins in any way, shape, or form. But I love ILBs. Here's what you do... you take a 4-3 DE that can dip and dive. You look at him and go..... I project him to be a 4-3 OLB in the NFL. Because he ain't gona bull squsat. And then you go... oh, yeah, those are our ILBs. Because they can cover and blitz on twists and stunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidersfan1 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Troy Edwards went for a 6th rd pick after that ship sailed after the 49ers game his rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, warfelg said: I did the math on it and I got 50 more points than the value for each one of those picks. Williams can be a hidden gem out of this draft. I know @43M doesn't like these mocks but it's fun sometimes to do these split leaning heavy one way or another. I really like our future of the offense with the offensive heavy, then 2024 FA we can use our cap space to go get some guys there. But at the same time that Branch, Carter, Williams, Benton start can be one of those cornerstone of a defense for a decade. Its not so much I dont like those mocks and more to do with hating the thought of us drafting offense with the first four picks this year with mostly players Im not particularly high on in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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