MOSteelers56 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I don't think we're going to land Stanton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: I don't think we're going to land Stanton. Seems to change everyday between us and the Giants. Like the rest of you, I just want this Stanton thing resolved so we can get on with the rest of the offseason. Seems to be holding everything else up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hummel made a great point in his chat, you're really trading for 3 years of Stanton, because the likelihood that he opts out of his deal after the 2020 season is extremely high, unless he just absolutely is trash during those 3 years. So you have to look at the contract as a 3 yr/$80 million dollar deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, holt_bruce81 said: Seems to change everyday between us and the Giants. Like the rest of you, I just want this Stanton thing resolved so we can get on with the rest of the offseason. Seems to be holding everything else up. If the rumored return the Marlins are willing to accept is true, and the Giants lose Stanton based on money haggling, they're idiotic. At this point, you've already committed yourself to going down this road. I feel like haggling over money (which may not have to be paid since Stanton could theoretically opt out in a couple of years, though I'm not sure if that's likely or not) when you're only giving up Panik / Beede / Shaw (the last of whom isn't needed with the acquisition of Stanton and completely blocked for the immediate future) is asinine. That's a super light return for someone like Stanton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 12 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I don't think we're going to land Stanton. At this point, I'm pretty much checked out. If we come up short again, I'm going to be more than a bit irritated. At some point, we need to accomplish what we set out to do. We were second in terms of re-signing Jason Heyward and signing David Price. Fortunately, that seems to have worked out best for us. But I don't want to see the Cardinals get stuck in no man's land where they're not good enough to win a championship, but not bad enough to be able to draft potential impact talent. Right now, we really don't have any blue chip players outside of Carlos Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 11 hours ago, holt_bruce81 said: Hummel made a great point in his chat, you're really trading for 3 years of Stanton, because the likelihood that he opts out of his deal after the 2020 season is extremely high, unless he just absolutely is trash during those 3 years. So you have to look at the contract as a 3 yr/$80 million dollar deal. Except you can't really operate under that assumption, because if he does struggle or fail you've essentially sunk $30M of your payroll over the next decade into someone whose a non-contributor. I mean, look at Ryan Howard in his final years with Philadelphia. He signed his mega-extension back in April 2010, and he averaged -0.5 WAR over the life that contract. That's a deal breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Quote Sources: Evan Longoria's name not seriously involved -- yet -- in ongoing #STLCards/#Rays talks centered on Alex Colome. But Cardinals could look to add bat at 3B if they fail to land Giancarlo Stanton. Stay tuned. @MLB @MLBNetwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: Why can't we just go ahead and acquire Longoria AND Stanton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Why can't we just go ahead and acquire Longoria AND Stanton? I, for one, nominate @CWood21 as GM of the Cardinals! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 With his age and all that he's going to cost to get him...Should we be all that excited about a Longoria possible trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, holt_bruce81 said: With his age and all that he's going to cost to get him...Should we be all that excited about a Longoria possible trade? I just want to do something lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 6 hours ago, CWood21 said: Why can't we just go ahead and acquire Longoria AND Stanton? YES!!! Screw this either/or bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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