Kiwibrown Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) For my mind there are two major wr styles or prototypes The guy 5'10-6'1ish who explodes through routes and has sharp cuts. They get open and catch often have long runs after the catch. Thinking obj, Holt, AB. And then there are the physical freaks who out position and out muscles dbs and get the ball. Mike Evans, Calvin Johnson, Dez Bryant In a lot of ways you could say either style can be highly effective, which do you prefer? Edited March 31, 2023 by Kiwibrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Probably depends on your QB…but generally, the guy that gets more open. Option A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Also I think it may be unfair to categorize Calvin as a jump ball guy. He was insanely fast and explosive. Was definitely a master of all, rather than a specialist. Did you mean to put Antonio Bryant’s name in there or was that supposed to be Dez? Bryant is just so…obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: Also I think it may be unfair to categorize Calvin as a jump ball guy. He was insanely fast and explosive. Was definitely a master of all, rather than a specialist. Did you mean to put Antonio Bryant’s name in there or was that supposed to be Dez? Bryant is just so…obscure. Dez lol. I get there is overlap. I didn't include Julio because he was probably the best of both like Calvin. TO was different too I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) I voted the smaller one, but I actually think there’s a better indicator of success in NFL WRs. It’s the route runners those WRs who get labelled with the “elite route running” end up being the most open and therefore the best receivers in the NFL Chase, Jefferson, Hopkins, Kupp etc Edited April 1, 2023 by Hunter2_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 When I think small I think tyreek. Those guys are pretty huge compared to him. On 4/1/2023 at 2:01 AM, Hunter2_1 said: I voted the smaller one, but I actually think there’s a better indicator of success in NFL WRs. It’s the route runners those WRs who get labelled with the “elite route running” end up being the most open and therefore the best receivers in the NFL Chase, Jefferson, Hopkins, Kupp etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I would love me some Megatron. But the ideal WR is Moss. Not big buff but can out jump anyone. Calvin took a massive beat down for his size I feel. Not to mention moss had blazing speed as well. Love me some Megatron though in my eyes he’s the best WR I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Route running and the ability to get open is more consistent across schemes, opponents, quality of QB play, and is generally less volatile on a play to play and game to game basis. Also tends to age better, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 13 hours ago, El Ramster said: When I think small I think tyreek. Those guys are pretty huge compared to him. To be clear - I’m saying size doesn’t matter. Route running is the key indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Getting open is the #1 most desirable trait for WRs right now. It makes it easier on your QB which makes it better for your offense to be more consistent and more risk-averse. Getting open seems to be easier for smaller, shiftier type guys. There are some really good CBs that can body up the bigger, less quick guys, but struggle mightily against the fast shifty guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Not trying to build the perfect WR, but as a fan of the game, I love watching a big man body out a DB for a ball the QB just chucked up there. It's the NFL version of posterizing. Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Marquise Colston, Big Mike Williams - these are the types of WRs that were so much fun to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On the criteria for the physical WR you should add being able to routinely break the press and being a really good run blocker because just going up and getting it isn't enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbky2j Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) Terrell Owens easily had the best and most versatile style for a superstar receiver - T. O.'s R.A.C. (run after catch) ability was like he was a 6'3 230 pound running back (strength & elusiveness) with the ball in his hand's that so happened to ran route's like wide-receiver - the great release off the line of scrimmage against press man coverage/ bump and run to be a x receiver - an excellent deep threat, a good vertical route runner with speed to get behind the defense on post & fly route's with the best of them - good possession receiver skill set / could play in the slot/ had great toughness could go over the middle and play in between the numbers like a tight-end but with wide receiver agility/quickness - one of the best red-zone target's in NFL history with ability to get open & make plays inside the 10 yard line has the second most receiving TD'S 49 inside the ten yard line in NFL history - one the most explosive playmaker / best big play guy's in NFL history T.O. has 64 play's over 40 yard's / 240 play's over 20 yards i don't think we have seen another receiver with elite Y.A.C. ability/ an elite big play guy / a elite redzone target,playmaker /and a possession receiver skill set with a big strong body Owens skill set in his prime was like having a superstar wide receiver a, dominant tight end, and an excellent slot receiver all in one player T.O. has a career bulk Stat line of 1000+catches/15'000+ receiving yards/ 150+ receiving TD's I don't think we have even seen the next receiver able to put up those type of number a cross the broad for a career even with all the great receivers in the league now in a "pass happy era" with rule changes set up to help qb's & receivers put up big numbers it's mind boggling to think about it dude had more big play ability at 36/37 than most receiver's had in their primes Edited April 23, 2023 by hbky2j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Always loved physical specimens like Moss and TO (speed and strength respectively). But ultimately, and especially in today's game, being a crafty route runner is the way to go. They can almost always get open against a variety of coverages and they will age like fine wine. Issac Bruce and Jordan Addison as pure examples. Antonio Brown and Jerry Rice as plus examples. Also Justin Jefferson and Devante Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbky2j Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) On 4/23/2023 at 12:37 AM, Duluther said: Always loved physical specimens like Moss and TO (speed and strength respectively). But ultimately, and especially in today's game, being a crafty route runner is the way to go. They can almost always get open against a variety of coverages and they will age like fine wine. Issac Bruce and Jordan Addison as pure examples. Antonio Brown and Jerry Rice as plus examples. Also Justin Jefferson and Devante Adams. Randy Moss was pretty much up washed up after age 32 other physical specimens like Megatron, Julio Jones, Dez, Andre Johnson, Demaryius Thomas, Brandon Marshall where pretty much done/ washed up at 32 or younger Terrell Owens T.O. was leading the league in touchdown catches at 33 being a all pro at 34 putting up a thousand yards and ten td's at 35 most likely goes over 1 thousand yards and close to double digit TD's if Ryan Fitzpatrick started most of the season ( actually put up 829 yards ) at 36 put up 983 yard's TD's in 13 game's being top 5 in receptions, yards receiving and touchdowns at the time of getting a season ending injury with 3 games to go Terrell Owens Ranks Second In Pro Bowl Fan Vote at 37 the fact that T.O. played such a physical and violent style between the number's, after the catch and over the middle in his prime on the 49er's and still had longevity is just another reason why after jerry rice he is in the G.O.A.T. receiver discussion with anybody again T.O. had more big play ability at 36/37 than most receiver's had in their primes Edited April 25, 2023 by hbky2j 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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