ET80 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, pf9 said: Besides, Goodell is likely on his way out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, ET80 said: Last I read he wasn't going to be extended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, pf9 said: Last I read he wasn't going to be extended https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jim-irsay-nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-contract-extension-virtually-done-will-run-through-march-of-2027/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 Still, Cleveland should have first dibs on 61 because of how long it has been since the last NFL playoff game in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, pf9 said: Still, Cleveland should have first dibs on 61 because of how long it has been since the last NFL playoff game in the city. This feels like a good compromise for all parties. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/02/cleveland-to-host-super-bowl-of-meetings-in-2024-american-society-of-association-executives.html#:~:text=CLEVELAND%2C Ohio — For the first,the convention and meetings industry. I’m sorry, it just doesn’t make sense. It’s an outdoor stadium where it’s freezing at night. In one of the “older” stadiums next to the new wonders of the world. It’s the 7th smallest nfl metro. It’s not a top tourist destination compared to a New Orleans. Cleveland is a great sports town, but it just doesn’t make sense for the NFL to host their biggest event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Alright, time to face the facts. Here's each current NFL market and the last time they hosted a playoff game (home game for tenants or Super Bowl), listed by what calendar year most, if not all, of the regular season took place in. Cleveland: 1994 Detroit: 2005 (Super Bowl) New York City: 2013 (Super Bowl) Indianapolis: 2014 Charlotte: 2015 Denver: 2015 Atlanta: 2018 (Super Bowl) Chicago: 2018 Baltimore: 2019 Boston: 2019 Houston: 2019 Miami: 2019 (Super Bowl) New Orleans: 2020 Pittsburgh: 2020 Seattle: 2020 Washington: 2020 Dallas: 2021 Green Bay: 2021 Los Angeles: 2021 (Super Bowl) Nashville: 2021 Buffalo: 2022 Cincinnati: 2022 Jacksonville: 2022 Kansas City: 2022 Minneapolis-St. Paul: 2022 Philadelphia: 2022 Phoenix: 2022 (Super Bowl) San Francisco: 2022 Tampa: 2022 As you can see, Cleveland has gone longer without hosting an NFL playoff game of any sort than any other city currently with an NFL team. The next longest drought is more than a decade shorter. Clevelanders have suffered long enough. The city needs to be awarded Super Bowl 61 in case the Browns don't get a home playoff game in the next few seasons. And notice that Cleveland is the only drought that dates back to the 20th century. Every other market has hosted a playoff game in the 21st. Edited May 23, 2023 by pf9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, pf9 said: Alright, time to face the facts. Here's each current NFL market and the last time they hosted a playoff game (home game for tenants or Super Bowl), listed by what calendar year most, if not all, of the regular season took place in. Cleveland: 1994 Detroit: 2005 (Super Bowl) New York City: 2013 (Super Bowl) Indianapolis: 2014 Charlotte: 2015 Denver: 2015 Atlanta: 2018 (Super Bowl) Chicago: 2018 Baltimore: 2019 Boston: 2019 Houston: 2019 Miami: 2019 (Super Bowl) New Orleans: 2020 Pittsburgh: 2020 Seattle: 2020 Washington: 2020 Dallas: 2021 Green Bay: 2021 Los Angeles: 2021 (Super Bowl) Nashville: 2021 Buffalo: 2022 Cincinnati: 2022 Jacksonville: 2022 Kansas City: 2022 Minneapolis-St. Paul: 2022 Philadelphia: 2022 Phoenix: 2022 (Super Bowl) San Francisco: 2022 Tampa: 2022 As you can see, Cleveland has gone longer without hosting an NFL playoff game of any sort than any other city currently with an NFL team. The next longest drought is more than a decade shorter. Clevelanders have suffered long enough. The city needs to be awarded Super Bowl 61 in case the Browns don't get a home playoff game in the next few seasons. That's not a reason to have them host a Super Bowl. The NFL is in the business of making money, and having Cleveland host the league's biggest game is not likely to be very profitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, D82 said: That's not a reason to have them host a Super Bowl. The NFL is in the business of making money, and having Cleveland host the league's biggest game is not likely to be very profitable. People don't say "money causes more problems than it solves" for no reason. The NFL owes Cleveland this after screwing up the Modell situation nearly 3 decades ago. The Ravens got away with not having to go through an expansion draft, and as a result they have not had consecutive losing seasons since 1996-98. Meanwhile it has been 21 years since the Browns last improved in consecutive seasons, and 34 since their last division title and back-to-back winning let alone playoff seasons; the Browns are the only team not to win a division title in my lifetime. Besides, cold weather football is real football. Edited May 23, 2023 by pf9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, pf9 said: People don't say "money causes more problems than it solves" for no reason. The NFL owes Cleveland this after screwing up the Modell situation nearly 3 decades ago. The Ravens got away with not having to go through an expansion draft, and as a result they have not had consecutive losing seasons since 1996-98. Meanwhile it has been 21 years since the Browns last improved in consecutive seasons, and 34 since their last division title and back-to-back winning let alone playoff seasons; the Browns are the only team not to win a division title in my lifetime. Besides, cold weather football is real football. They don't owe Cleveland anything. Cleveland's misfortunes are no one's fault but their own. And it's great you think cold weather football is "real football"...but a lot of people don't. And nobody wants to pay thousands of dollars for Super Bowl tickets to go sit in a freezing cold stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, D82 said: They don't owe Cleveland anything. Cleveland's misfortunes are no one's fault but their own. And it's great you think cold weather football is "real football"...but a lot of people don't. And nobody wants to pay thousands of dollars for Super Bowl tickets to go sit in a freezing cold stadium. As a matter of fact, Paul Tagliabue, the man who orchestrated this plot, doesn't deserve to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame because of it, especially considering its location in the Cleveland TV market. His poor handling of the Modell situation to me has forever stained his legacy, in spite of all the good things he did do as commissioner. Voting him in was a mistake. I think he should be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 And speaking of the Hall of Fame, having Cleveland host Super Bowl 61 could allow some of the auxiliary events to be held at the HOF since it is in the Cleveland market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Get leshaun out and I'll support the "Cleveland hosting the SB" idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, D82 said: And it's great you think cold weather football is "real football"...but a lot of people don't. And nobody wants to pay thousands of dollars for Super Bowl tickets to go sit in a freezing cold stadium. People already took a chance on that when MetLife Stadium hosted the Super Bowl, but it proved to be warmer than anticipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, pf9 said: People don't say "money causes more problems than it solves" for no reason. The NFL owes Cleveland this after screwing up the Modell situation nearly 3 decades ago. The Ravens got away with not having to go through an expansion draft, and as a result they have not had consecutive losing seasons since 1996-98. Meanwhile it has been 21 years since the Browns last improved in consecutive seasons, and 34 since their last division title and back-to-back winning let alone playoff seasons; the Browns are the only team not to win a division title in my lifetime. Besides, cold weather football is real football. The city of Cleveland has already accepted a settlement in regards to the Ravens moving to Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, pf9 said: People already took a chance on that when MetLife Stadium hosted the Super Bowl, but it proved to be warmer than anticipated. Again, MetLife stadium was a brand new stadium. Why can’t the Browns build a new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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