turtle28 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, e16bball said: Agree those are big needs, but I don’t think we need to be wedded to those positions at both R2 picks. Especially because there isn’t a MLB or TE that I’d be willing to take at the top of the 2nd round of this draft. I will say that I can’t help feeling like one of those picks has to be used on an OL, whether it’s a toolsy OT or one of the high-end IOLs. But that still leaves another pick that could be used on a receiver if we aren’t sold on Dotson as WR2 moving forward and can’t snag a top guy in FA. I think Xavier Legette is going to be a big riser after the combine, and it feels like Keon Coleman is really dropping (pun sort of intended). I suspect one of those guys may actually be there for our R2 picks, and either one would give us the big-body type we’ve been lacking for a long time. I think that’s especially that the case if the OTs fly off the board like we’re afraid they might. If the OTs are gone, there might be value still at WR (or DE). My thing is that people keep falling in love with flashy prospects - which i understand - but we shouldn't do what Rivera did the last few drafts and ignore our biggest needs bc we like a prospect IMO. There are DEs, MLBs, OL & TEs worth taking in R2, I'm taking that over another small WR. I personally think WR should be solved in FA by signing a vet who's over 6’ to give us some height on the outside, whether that's spending high dollars on Tee Higgins or on someone in the 2nd tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 hours ago, turtle28 said: Can he play OL, MLB or TE? No but he can play WR and special teams extremely well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 41 minutes ago, turtle28 said: My thing is that people keep falling in love with flashy prospects - which i understand - but we shouldn't do what Rivera did the last few drafts and ignore our biggest needs bc we like a prospect IMO. There are DEs, MLBs, OL & TEs worth taking in R2, I'm taking that over another small WR. I personally think WR should be solved in FA by signing a vet who's over 6’ to give us some height on the outside, whether that's spending high dollars on Tee Higgins or on someone in the 2nd tier. Rivera fell in love with flashy prospects? Like who lol. Rivera picked guys a round too early. He constantly passed on the flashy players and that's how we ended up with Dotson instead of a much better receiver in Olave or an All-Pro safety in Hamilton. I think you take the best player on the board regardless of position. This team has holes everywhere, including receiver. And I don't agree there are TEs worthy of taking in the second round this year. We missed that boat last season when I begged and pleaded for one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, lavar703 said: Rivera fell in love with flashy prospects? Like who lol. Rivera picked guys a round too early. He constantly passed on the flashy players and that's how we ended up with Dotson instead of a much better receiver in Olave or an All-Pro safety in Hamilton. I think you take the best player on the board regardless of position. This team has holes everywhere, including receiver. And I don't agree there are TEs worthy of taking in the second round this year. We missed that boat last season when I begged and pleaded for one. Jamin Davis was an extremely athletic LB and flashy as a prospect. Rivera took him over the solid LT Christian Darrisaw who would've been a cornerstone at LT for a decade plus. Emanuel Forbes led the SEC in interceptions returned for a TD, so bc Rivera wanted the flashy playmaker so, he took him over the more technically sound Christian Gonzalez. Quan Martin was a Swiss Army, nickel CB/S in college & Rivera took him over Cody Mauch or O’Cyrus Torrence who would've been our starting LG. Edited January 23 by turtle28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, turtle28 said: Jamin Davis was an extremely athletic LB and flashy as a prospect. Rivera took him over the solid LT Christian Darrisaw who would've been a cornerstone at LT for a decade plus. Emanuel Forbes led the SEC in interceptions returned for a TD, so bc Rivera wanted the flashy playmaker so, he took him over the more technically sound Christian Gonzalez. Quan Martin was a Swiss Army, nickel CB/S in college & Rivera took him over Cody Mauch or O’Cyrus Torrence who would've been our starting LG. Your flashy and my flashy are very different my dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: Your flashy and my flashy are very different my dude How is a fast WR who's a kick returner not flashy? We need guys that play inside the #s. We need to build the OL, restock DE, draft a MLB & a #1 TE is way more important than #3 WR. Also, do we need another 6’ 170 pound WR? That size screams the Emmanuel Forbes of WRs to me. Edited January 24 by turtle28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Call me crazy but I'd like to draft Johnny Wilson in R4 and move him to TE. I think his 6’7 frame will be a huge asset over the middle & he's got more speed than most TEs to stretch the field vs LBs & SS’s and he has a huge catch radius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 hours ago, lavar703 said: Your flashy and my flashy are very different my dude I agree with that. Jamin Davis was a combine/workout warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I can't believe there's people who genuinely think Jayden Daniels is actually 210lbs. I get that's his listed weight but Stroud is apparently 218. Now look at Stroud and look at Daniels and tell me they look remotely the same in build lol. Daniels looks like Forbes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I can't believe there's people who genuinely think Jayden Daniels is actually 210lbs. I get that's his listed weight but Stroud is apparently 218. Now look at Stroud and look at Daniels and tell me they look remotely the same in build lol. Daniels looks like Forbes. I'm still taking him over Drake Maye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 https://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draft/mock/2024/2024-nfl-mock-draft-1.0/99 Quote 2. Washington Commanders Jayden Daniels, QB , LSU They have us taking him over both Caleb and Maye. Quote 36. Washington Commanders Adisa Isaac, DE , Penn State I'm not even familiar with this guy, just Chop (who went three picks before). Probably go Morgan or Barton or consider trading up a little bit for one of the tackles that falls. Quote 40. Washington Commanders Graham Barton, OG , Duke Good pick. If we took Barton at 36 then maybe Amenadjie here. Quote 67. Washington Commanders Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE , Texas Probably the clear #2 TE in the draft. Probably not a bad spot to get him either. Alternate maybe Darius Robinson, DE or Jackson Powers-Johnson, C. Quote 100. Washington Commanders Malachi Corley, WR , Western Kentucky Perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: I agree with that. Jamin Davis was a combine/workout warrior. But that's why he was the flashy pick. He flashed just like Forbes did in certain ways and that's why Rivera & the Marty’s took them. They thought both would force turnovers bc of their speed/athleticism and so far they were wrong. The safer pick in that draft was Darisaw but Rivera/Gurney didn't value 1st round OL or spending a lot in FA on OL so they resched by a round on a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, MikeT14 said: https://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draft/mock/2024/2024-nfl-mock-draft-1.0/99 They have us taking him over both Caleb and Maye. I'm not even familiar with this guy, just Chop (who went three picks before). Probably go Morgan or Barton or consider trading up a little bit for one of the tackles that falls. Good pick. If we took Barton at 36 then maybe Amenadjie here. Probably the clear #2 TE in the draft. Probably not a bad spot to get him either. Alternate maybe Darius Robinson, DE or Jackson Powers-Johnson, C. Perfection. I wouldn't take Daniels over Caleb or Drake. Other than that I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, turtle28 said: I wouldn't take Daniels over Caleb or Drake. Other than that I like it. Yeah, again I like JD, but not over the other two. Other than that the draft overall is good, except I don't know anything out PSU's other DE so I can't overly comment on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: I'm still taking him over Drake Maye Yeah I wouldn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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