NYRaider Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, bucksavage1 said: Have you seen Wilson the last 3-4 games? He looks promising. This is the opinion of Wilson from September Dude's a rotational edge with 1.5 sacks at this point, taking him over a guy that's arguably the best DT in the NFL already was foolish asl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Dude's a rotational edge with 1.5 sacks at this point, taking him over a guy that's arguably the best DT in the NFL already was foolish asl. 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Mid season and all you can say about him is “promising” and that’s from a #7 pick considering the alternative choices. Not to mention he plays across from maxx. Best DT in the NFL?! 😭 not even close. He’s having a good rookie year Just because you guys wanted Jalen Carter, doesn’t mean you have to discredit Wilson progress and plays he’s making every week. He’s a reserve Edge with more tackles than Carter playing half the time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Darbsk said: Surprised Mike Shanahan, Bill Callaghan or JaMarcus didn’t feature but as you say, recency bias I guess…….. They were on the poll, just not nearly as many votes....and like I said it wasn’t even close. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: Best DT in the NFL?! 😭 not even close. He’s having a good rookie year Just because you guys wanted Jalen Carter, doesn’t mean you have to discredit Wilson progress and plays he’s making every week. He’s a reserve Edge with more tackles than Carter playing half the time Not discrediting Wilson just being 100. He was dam near rock bottom week 1 nowhere to go but up. But I’m not gonna pretend like he’s impressive. I agree best word to describe him is “promising” but I’d rather use other words like “generational” or “solid” etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 When Carter gets arrested in the offseason, all these takes will come back in a big way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justwinning Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Dude's a rotational edge with 1.5 sacks at this point, taking him over a guy that's arguably the best DT in the NFL already was foolish asl. You have to be kidding me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: Best DT in the NFL?! 😭 not even close. He’s having a good rookie year Just because you guys wanted Jalen Carter, doesn’t mean you have to discredit Wilson progress and plays he’s making every week. He’s a reserve Edge with more tackles than Carter playing half the time https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38635513/eagles-rookie-jalen-carter-record-pace-defense Quote Eagles rookie Jalen Carter is producing historic stats With 3.5 sacks under his belt, Carter is producing at a historic clip. The last first-year defensive tackle with at least 12 combined tackles and 3.5 sacks over any five-game stretch was the Rams' Aaron Donald in 2014. The most sacks by a first-year defensive tackle since the stat has been tracked is 11 by Keith Millard in 1985, per ESPN Stats & Information research. Carter is on pace for 11.5. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-first-quarter-all-pro-team-tua-tagovailoa-jalen-carter PFF had him on their first quarter All-Pro 1st team Quote An immediate standout on a very talented defensive line, Carter has impressed both as a run defender and a pass-rusher in his first four NFL games. From 104 pass-rushing opportunities, he has racked up 20 total pressures, including two sacks. https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-jalen-carter-top-3-defender-pff-rankings Quote Philadelphia Eagles' Jalen Carter Already a Top 3 Defender? Despite only being a rookie, Philadelphia Eagles defensive tackle Jalen Carter has already placed himself amongst some of the league's top defenders. Only three defenders have a pressure percentage of 20 or greater this season, according to Pro Football Focus: Micah Parsons, Myles Garrett, and Carter. However, Philadelphia's rookie shines even more in a different grade. Carter (93.2) has the third-highest PFF Grade among all defenders this season, with less than one point separating him from the top player, Nick Bosa (93.9). Anyone who doubted the former Georgia Bulldog has likely been silenced. @NCOUGHMAN @big_palooka @Justwinning @bucksavage1 Are ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and PFF all wrong??? Edited November 9, 2023 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Justwinning said: You have to be kidding me Every major media outlet agrees with me, based on production, see my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, big_palooka said: When Carter gets arrested in the offseason, all these takes will come back in a big way. Probably a higher chance Tyree Wilson gets in trouble than Carter considering the Eagles strong leadership and the number of players who have gotten into ish in Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38635513/eagles-rookie-jalen-carter-record-pace-defense https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-first-quarter-all-pro-team-tua-tagovailoa-jalen-carter PFF had him on their first quarter All-Pro 1st team https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-jalen-carter-top-3-defender-pff-rankings @NCOUGHMAN @big_palooka @Justwinning @bucksavage1 Are ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and PFF all wrong??? Why the hell you dragging me into this? 6 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Probably a higher chance Tyree Wilson gets in trouble than Carter considering the Eagles strong leadership and the number of players who have gotten into ish in Vegas. lol... sure. This your new troll, cuz I'm hear for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Why the hell you dragging me into this? lol... sure. This your new troll, cuz I'm hear for it. We've seen Arnette, Ruggs, and Chandler completely go off the ropes in Vegas. When is the last Philly player to go nutty mode? Carter legit might be first team all-pro, to suggest he is the best DT in the NFL already isn't that far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, NYRaider said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38635513/eagles-rookie-jalen-carter-record-pace-defense https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-first-quarter-all-pro-team-tua-tagovailoa-jalen-carter PFF had him on their first quarter All-Pro 1st team https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-jalen-carter-top-3-defender-pff-rankings @NCOUGHMAN @big_palooka @Justwinning @bucksavage1 Are ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and PFF all wrong??? I think he’s very good so far I wouldn’t call him the best but he’s been very solid and lightweight generational but it’s still early I wanted nothing to do with Wilson tho and it’s well documented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, NYRaider said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38635513/eagles-rookie-jalen-carter-record-pace-defense https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-first-quarter-all-pro-team-tua-tagovailoa-jalen-carter PFF had him on their first quarter All-Pro 1st team https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-jalen-carter-top-3-defender-pff-rankings @NCOUGHMAN @big_palooka @Justwinning @bucksavage1 Are ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and PFF all wrong??? just a heads up, its entirely possible first quarter all pro happened as teams were giving him single coverage... he beat it, now he is starting to get doubled... as all the top DTs do. PFF, ESPN and Sports ilustrated, never called him the best, you did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: When Carter gets arrested in the offseason, all these takes will come back in a big way. Kinda proving ny right with this statement so basically you banking on him to get arrested to make the Wilson pick look ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrian Raider Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 6 hours ago, NYRaider said: We've seen Arnette, Ruggs, and Chandler completely go off the ropes in Vegas. When is the last Philly player to go nutty mode? Okay Vegas has some distractions for young guys. But you are still ignoring that when it comes to Carter, who already Had some issues off the field in college? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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