Dr A W Niloc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 In situ, Trevor Lawrence doesn't crack the top six on many lists. If we take into account support (e.g. receiving corps, pass protection, field position, etc.) he is #2, behind Mahomes, who remains the generational talent. For what it's worth, Trevor's situation has improved noticeably this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 1:54 PM, CP3MVP said: I kinda expected a “generational” QB talent to be an MVP or all pro level player in year 3. Urban Meyer really set him back a year IMO. If Pederson was the HC from the start we would see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Yyeah I really thought this was going to be his breakout year, and it hasn't quite been that. But I do think he's still on the cusp of a jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 3:47 AM, 4thandInches said: He’s not close to a top 5 qb. He’s been okay, but when I watch them nothing pops. I thought he’d take a big stride this year but I still don’t see it. That redzone interception last week was appalling. “He’s been okay” tells me all I need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 WHY DOES HE ONLY HAVE 9 TD’s????: Only the fantasy community thinks he hasn’t played well. I wonder why. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, CP3MVP said: He wasn’t elite so by the constant generational tag he was a disappointment. Peyton was an all pro in year 2. They are not the same Peyton wasn't a AP until his 6th NFL season in 2003? In fact Manning never had a better statistical season then Andrew Lucks 2014 year, until his 7th season. Try again. 2014 Luck 4761 yds 40TD 16 INT In fact only 1 (singular) of Mannings 13 years and somehow 5 AP seasons as a Colts came close to Lucks 2014 year. Andrew was just playing against Aaron Rodgers/JJ Watt that year for MVP/AP honors. 2018 Luck 4593yds 39TD 15 INT after a year off due to injury. Mahomes 1st AP MVP season. Luck Retired in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Dbl post Edited November 4, 2023 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Peyton wasn't a AP until his 6th NFL season in 2003? In fact Manning never had a better statistical season then Andrew Lucks 2014 year, until his 7th season. Try again. 2014 Luck 4761 yds 40TD 16 INT In fact only 1 (singular) of Mannings 13 years and somehow 5 AP seasons as a Colts came close to Lucks 2014 year. Andrew was just playing against Aaron Rodgers/JJ Watt that year for MVP/AP honors. 2018 Luck 4593yds 39TD 15 INT after a year off due to injury. Mahomes 1st AP MVP season. Luck Retired in 2019. He was a second team all pro in his second and third years (Manning). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: WHY DOES HE ONLY HAVE 9 TD’s????: Only the fantasy community thinks he hasn’t played well. I wonder why. Post dem clips, KYD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, notthatbluestuff said: Post dem clips, KYD. Thank you for your Jags support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nabbs4u said: Peyton wasn't a AP until his 6th NFL season in 2003? In fact Manning never had a better statistical season then Andrew Lucks 2014 year, until his 7th season. Try again. 2014 Luck 4761 yds 40TD 16 INT In fact only 1 (singular) of Mannings 13 years and somehow 5 AP seasons as a Colts came close to Lucks 2014 year. Andrew was just playing against Aaron Rodgers/JJ Watt that year for MVP/AP honors. 2018 Luck 4593yds 39TD 15 INT after a year off due to injury. Mahomes 1st AP MVP season. Luck Retired in 2019. Peyton was an all pro in 1999. We are comparing players relative to their peers. I expect a generational prospect to be a top 3 ish player at their position relatively quickly. Andrew luck wasn’t Edited November 4, 2023 by CP3MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Xenos said: Urban Meyer really set him back a year IMO. If Pederson was the HC from the start we would see it. This is year 2 under Pederson who had Carson wentz looking like an mvp candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, CP3MVP said: This is year 2 under Pederson who had Carson wentz looking like an mvp candidate. He’s 6th in MVP odds lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: He’s 6th in MVP odds lol Carson wentz was 1or 2 for the entire season until he got hurt. Lawrence is nowhere close lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: Peyton was an all pro in 1999. We are comparing players relative to their peers. I expect a generational prospect to be a top 3 ish player at their position relatively quickly. Andrew luck wasn’t That might apply if Luck wasn't playing with and against 4 1st ballot HOF'rs! Let alone possibly 2 of the top 5 Greatest QB in NFL history. Peyton Brady Rodgers Brees Besides Mahomes who from this Era would of cracked that top 4, let's be real? Edited November 4, 2023 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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