Chali21 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 On 9/8/2024 at 6:01 PM, agarcia34 said: Raiders didn’t miss out on any good HC candidates this past offseason. Ben Johnson stayed. Bobby Slowik stayed. Vrabel will be available. Frank Smith as well. Raiders lost nothing in giving AP a chance. If it fails then you get rid of him and then go after someone else. This time you will have a high draft pick to take a QB. I disagree, most of that list is as unknown as AP is. The one coach you didn’t mention is Harbaugh, the guy who out coached AP. The guy has had tremendous success in both College and Pros. He’s also the guy I’d be most comfortable with if the team doesn’t have a franchise quarterback because he knows how to coach guys up. Harbaugh is the retread coach everyone envisions having. 9 times out of ten retreads are bums who weren’t all that great to begin with. I can assure you there won’t be a guy like him in the next cycle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidersedge Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 I liked Harbaugh but I'm not sure he had any interest in Raiders job. Seemed like he wanted to coach Herbert. We'll never know. Whats disappointing is the Raiders will miss out on both Johnson and Slowik. They will both get head jobs in January and we'll most likely stay with AP no matter what, I can't see Mark firing another coach so soon. Its getting out of control. I don't dislike AP some of his early struggles are normal even some of the best Head Coaches make dumb decisions. I feel like the biggest issue will be Luke Getsy. We'll see how bad it gets on offense but I have very little faith in that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Pierce wasn’t my first choice, but I convinced myself that he maybe, just maybe he could be a Cinderella story for us. Holy crap that punt was an idiotic call though, going to take a lot for me to get over that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 10:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:18 PM It’s time for mark to man up and make a business decision. Accept that he let the players and fanbase punk him into hiring a mediocre HS head coach and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted Monday at 10:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:52 PM 32 minutes ago, NYRaider said: It’s time for mark to man up and make a business decision. Accept that he let the players and fanbase punk him into hiring a mediocre HS head coach and move on. To soon. Firing him in season does nothing. Let him sink or swim. Let him be our Lovey Smith and hope for a high draft pick a better coach and a franchise QB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Tuesday at 02:15 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:15 AM 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: To soon. Firing him in season does nothing. Let him sink or swim. Let him be our Lovey Smith and hope for a high draft pick a better coach and a franchise QB. From the next potential Madden to the next Lovie, NFL comes at you fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted Tuesday at 02:43 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:43 AM 21 minutes ago, NYRaider said: From the next potential Madden to the next Lovie, NFL comes at you fast. Lovie went to a Superbowl with Rex Grossman as his QB. He was at least adequate as a HC at one point. What we're seeing is Cleveland Hue Jackson level ineptitude. The "it's too soon" crowd will be singing a different tune when AP winds up like 12-38 over the next couple of years and whatever QB we have is.set back about half a decade or more. Rinse. Wash. Repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted Tuesday at 05:09 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:09 AM 2 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: The "it's too soon" crowd will be singing a different tune when AP winds up like 12-38 over the next couple of years and whatever QB we have is.set back about half a decade or more. Rinse. Wash. Repeat. 17+8 doesn’t equal 50 my man! he’s on a 1 year contract. intermn HCs keep putting us in this awkward position… why do it to ourselves again? Why do people just make up arguments? Who the hell is saying sign him to an extension right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted Tuesday at 07:15 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:15 AM 2 hours ago, BackinBlack said: 17+8 doesn’t equal 50 my man! he’s on a 1 year contract. intermn HCs keep putting us in this awkward position… why do it to ourselves again? Why do people just make up arguments? Who the hell is saying sign him to an extension right now? I would bet top dollar that he gets at bare minimum 2024 and 2025 if Mark doesn't fire him mid-season. This year, his excuse will be QB and not having his OC "of choice" (regardless of the lack of OC candidates being a result of his choice). 2025, his excuse will be "New QB, New OC, who dis?". If Josh McDaniels didn't have the disastrous Denver run and the Indianapolis stink and hadn't bungled the Carr situation, Davis would've given that moron at least 2 more years despite the glaring ineptitude. There's 34 + 8. That's 42. Mid way through 2026, maybe Mark finally grows a spine. There's your 50. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted Tuesday at 09:49 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:49 AM 4 hours ago, BackinBlack said: 17+8 doesn’t equal 50 my man! he’s on a 1 year contract. intermn HCs keep putting us in this awkward position… why do it to ourselves again? Why do people just make up arguments? Who the hell is saying sign him to an extension right now? He's on at least a 3 year contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidersedge Posted Tuesday at 10:21 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:21 AM Yeah, I'd say Mark probably gave AP 3 or 4 year deal. I don't think Mark will ever fire a coach in season anymore so he doesn't have to deal with the interim hype ever again. I don't think Mark Davis is firing AP anytime soon. They can win 5 games and he's probably save. OC and some other spots will be in question. Because if you plan on drafting a QB in round one, AP better have a staff who can develop a rookie QB. Getsy, Cregg and Scangarello are not good. In fact these guys have been bad for years. AP would have been better off listening to Marvin Lewis and hired Hue Jackson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted Tuesday at 01:56 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:56 PM 6 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: I would bet top dollar that he gets at bare minimum 2024 and 2025 if Mark doesn't fire him mid-season. This year, his excuse will be QB and not having his OC "of choice" (regardless of the lack of OC candidates being a result of his choice). 2025, his excuse will be "New QB, New OC, who dis?". If Josh McDaniels didn't have the disastrous Denver run and the Indianapolis stink and hadn't bungled the Carr situation, Davis would've given that moron at least 2 more years despite the glaring ineptitude. There's 34 + 8. That's 42. Mid way through 2026, maybe Mark finally grows a spine. There's your 50. 😁 4 hours ago, big_palooka said: He's on at least a 3 year contract. Man my bad, I would’ve sworn we signed him to a 1 year deal. wild I am losing my mind watching this team 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted Tuesday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:10 PM 1 hour ago, BackinBlack said: Man my bad, I would’ve sworn we signed him to a 1 year deal. wild I am losing my mind watching this team 🤣 It should've been a 1 year prove-it deal. 100% should have been. But it's Mark Davis we're dealing with lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM 8 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: It should've been a 1 year prove-it deal. 100% should have been. But it's Mark Davis we're dealing with lol I can't believe Maxx Crosby and the fanbase really punked him into hiring this scrub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted Tuesday at 04:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:55 PM 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: I can't believe Maxx Crosby and the fanbase really punked him into hiring this scrub That's the hardest part of the whole hiring process. Crosby threw his weight into the fold, and it probably messed up our chances at getting a better HC. I really, really wanted Harbaugh. A man who eats steak with a glass of milk is just crazy enough to turn our franchise around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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