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it would be, yes. as in, it's a dream to expect McCarthy to be there at 42...?

It certainly would seem that way. But Will Levis was a consensus 1st round QB last year, and there was a lot of talk of him being a top 5 pick leading right up to the draft. He went in the 2nd round. 

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In a recent mock draft by Matt Miller of ESPN, he had the Raiders selecting Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy at No. 13. Here is his reasoning behind the selection for Las Vegas:

"The Raiders have a new general manager in Tom Telesco and must make finding a long-term quarterback the priority of the 2024 offseason (free agent signing Jimmy Garoppolo has not worked out). McCarthy, who started two years at Michigan, just turned 21 and has the requisite tools to be that player."

"He’s mobile and tough as nails, and scouts praise his arm strength and ability to make difficult throws in big situations. He has thrown only 44 touchdown passes in college to nine interceptions and compared to the other top quarterbacks in this class, he’s by far the least-experienced thrower. But his potential and ceiling have him worthy of a top-15 selection."

McCarthy is widely viewed as the No. 4 quarterback in the 2024 NFL Draft behind Caleb Williams (USC), Drake Maye (North Carolina, and Jayden Daniels (LSU). But it’s McCarthy who ended up winning the most games and was a National Champion this year.

McCarthy is still a pretty raw player, but he has all of the traits to be a high-end starter in the NFL. Is the direction that Telesco will go with his first ever pick for the Raiders? Time will tell, but it does make a lot of sense on paper.

https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/05/raiders-grab-franchise-quarterback-in-latest-espn-mock-draft/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3dfW9ApNW3PSYDv2aLKSzsBtYWLRlnBN-Caq7o_lVD5YSfHfLM1PtPLtA

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11) Minnesota Vikings: Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa

The Vikings may become torn between Terrion Arnold or Cooper DeJean at No. 11.

PFN NFL Insider Adam Caplan recently spoke with a “high-level scouting source” who told him DeJean is a top-five talent. DeJean is a fleet-footed option as a gap closer with his speed and click-and-close ability. He’s also shown a knack for being a processor in knowing when to jump on routes and adjust his hip direction.

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/lorenzo-reyna-2024-nfl-mock-draft-super-bowl-week/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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11 minutes ago, SemperFeist said:

No thanks to a corner in round one. 

I'm with you on that, but I can't tell you how many people will say that that's fine with them because of the current CB room.  I'm of the opinion that if the CB is the BPA on their board at #11, then they should do all they can to move down...the positional value of a CB for this team shouldn't be above QB and DL/Edge and they should wait on taking another CB until the mid-rounds.

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4 minutes ago, swede700 said:

I'm with you on that, but I can't tell you how many people will say that that's fine with them because of the current CB room.  I'm of the opinion that if the CB is the BPA on their board at #11, then they should do all they can to move down...the positional value of a CB for this team shouldn't be above QB and DL/Edge and they should wait on taking another CB until the mid-rounds.

I don’t see the current CB room as that bad. It’s not great, but the lack of a consistent pass rush is far more detrimental to how the CBs look than their overall talent. 

Fix the d-line and pass rush, then worry about finding that star CB. Because without a competent and consistent pass rush, a secondary full of All Pros is going to look mediocre. 

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@Arif's first mock...
 

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ROUND 1, PICK NO. 11: TRADE DOWN FROM NO. 11 TO NO. 16

I negotiated down the board but ultimately settled on a trade with the Seattle Seahawks to move down to pick No. 16 and take up their third-round selection, 78th overall.

ROUND 1, PICK NO. 16: TRADE DOWN FROM NO. 16 TO NO. 20

ROUND 1, PICK NO. 20: CB TERRION ARNOLD, ALABAMA

ROUND 2, PICK NO. 42: ED CHRISTIAN BRASWELL, ALABAMA

ROUND 3, PICK NO. 78: DL BRADEN FISKE, FLORIDA STATE

ROUND 3, PICK NO. 84: OG CHRISTIAN HAYNES, CONNECTICUT

ROUND 4, PICK NO. 108: QB SPENCER RATTLER, SOUTH CAROLINA

ROUND 5, PICK NO. 158: RB RASHEEN ALI, MARSHALL

ROUND 5, PICK NO. 167: S JAYLIN SIMPSON, AUBURN

ROUND 6, PICK NO. 187: TE AJ BARNER, MICHIGAN

ROUND 7, PICK NO. 242: WR JHA’QUAN JACKSON, TULANE

 

https://zonecoverage.com/2024/minnesota-vikings-news/arif-hasans-vikings-2024-mock-draft-1-0-trading-down-for-value/

 

 

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here's a creative mock for once, i call it the Bears' Bruiser. and the Bears, of all the teams, really are the ones that can make some startling moves.

 

** Chicago trades Justin Fields to Atlanta:

Falcons get: Justin Fields, 2025 sixth-round pick
Bears get: No. 74 overall (third-round pick), 2025 third-round pick that becomes a second-round pick if Fields plays 75% of the snaps and becomes a first-round pick if the Falcons make the playoffs in 2025

** Bears trade #1 pick to Washington:

Commanders get: No. 1 overall, No. 122 overall (fourth round), and a 2025 fourth-round pick
Bears get: No. 2 overall, No. 43 overall (second-round pick), No. 79 overall (third-round pick), 2025 first-round pick, 2026 third-round pick 

 

1) WASH - QB Caleb Williams
2) CHI - QB Jayden Daniels (score!! plus more picks!)
3) NE - WR Marvin Harrison Jr
4) AZ - WR Rome Odunze
5) LAC - DL Byron Murphy II
6) NYG - QB Drake Maye (Giants luck out here...)
7) TENN - OT Taliese Fuaga 
8 ) ATL - EDGE Laiatu Latu (huh?)
9) CHI - WR Malik Nabors (Chicago doing well here, teaming Daniels and Nabors...)
10) NYJ - OT Joe Alt
11) MINN - QB JJ McCarthy
12) DEN - QB Bo Nix

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-bears-trade-justin-fields-within-nfc-also-trade-out-of-no-1-spot-but-still-land-qb/

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4 hours ago, vike daddy said:

here's a creative mock for once, i call it the Bears' Bruiser. and the Bears, of all the teams, really are the ones that can make some startling moves.

 

** Chicago trades Justin Fields to Atlanta:

Falcons get: Justin Fields, 2025 sixth-round pick
Bears get: No. 74 overall (third-round pick), 2025 third-round pick that becomes a second-round pick if Fields plays 75% of the snaps and becomes a first-round pick if the Falcons make the playoffs in 2025

** Bears trade #1 pick to Washington:

Commanders get: No. 1 overall, No. 122 overall (fourth round), and a 2025 fourth-round pick
Bears get: No. 2 overall, No. 43 overall (second-round pick), No. 79 overall (third-round pick), 2025 first-round pick, 2026 third-round pick 

 

1) WASH - QB Caleb Williams
2) CHI - QB Jayden Daniels (score!! plus more picks!)
3) NE - WR Marvin Harrison Jr
4) AZ - WR Rome Odunze
5) LAC - DL Byron Murphy II
6) NYG - QB Drake Maye (Giants luck out here...)
7) TENN - OT Taliese Fuaga 
8 ) ATL - EDGE Laiatu Latu (huh?)
9) CHI - WR Malik Nabors (Chicago doing well here, teaming Daniels and Nabors...)
10) NYJ - OT Joe Alt
11) MINN - QB JJ McCarthy
12) DEN - QB Bo Nix

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-bears-trade-justin-fields-within-nfc-also-trade-out-of-no-1-spot-but-still-land-qb/

WA would be insane to make that trade, IMO. And I believe in Williams. 

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Alec Lewis' first attempt at a mock...
 

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Here are the selections, featuring one quarterback, two trades and a bunch of defenders:

Round 1, No. 11 overall: Byron Murphy II, DT, Texas

Round 1, No. 30 overall: Bo Nix, QB, Oregon (traded up with Baltimore, giving them their 2nd rd and 5th rd this yr and 3rd rd in 2025)

Fourth round: Mohamed Kamara, Edge, Colorado State

Fourth round: Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame

Fifth round: Gabriel Murphy, Edge, UCLA

Fifth round: Michael Barrett, LB, Michigan

Sixth round: Kamal Hadden, CB, Tennessee

 

https://theathletic.com/5270617/2024/02/13/vikings-mock-draft-trades-qb/

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