vike daddy Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: it could very well be, that both partys are just staying hush hush, for each party’s benefit other than, that's not what Kirk himself has said. that he's said he wishes plans were being discussed now, but he recognizes it has to wait until March. minor detail you're leaving out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, vike daddy said: other than, that's not what Kirk himself has said. that he's said he wishes plans were being discussed now, but he recognizes it has to wait until March. Wait. Kirk said he wishes plans were being discussed now? I didn't notice when that happened (or maybe I forgot). When did he say it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: Wait. Kirk said he wishes plans were being discussed now? I didn't notice when that happened (or maybe I forgot). When did he say it? no, i'm saying that's NOT what Cousins is saying. but we do know what he IS. posted on Feb 11: Cousins: "That's kind of our attitude [waiting]. We do have a lot of work to do between September and February and when it gets to February and March, now we kind of are past it and it's like, all right, we hired an agent. The team has its role. Let's just see what happens and we kind of become like everybody else." https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/ahead-of-free-agency-kirk-cousins-says-expects-to-play-several-more-years Feb 12: Cousins: “Many people who ask including friends and family are surprised conversations don’t really begin until March.” https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/cousins-timeline-takes?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook @CriminalMind was saying then, and is still saying now, that if the two camps wanted to deal with each other they would have done so by now, or would have announced that they are attempting to. but Cousins himself says those conversations just don't start until March. hey, i don't know... who ya gonna believe here...? i mean, who has better inside information, Cousins or one of us? we all gotta decide that one... Edited February 18 by vike daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, vike daddy said: posted on Feb 11: Cousins: "That's kind of our attitude [waiting]. We do have a lot of work to do between September and February and when it gets to February and March, now we kind of are past it and it's like, all right, we hired an agent. The team has its role. Let's just see what happens and we kind of become like everybody else." https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/ahead-of-free-agency-kirk-cousins-says-expects-to-play-several-more-years Feb 12: Yet, according to Cousins, it’s a March thing. He told Sky Sports about two weeks ago, “Many people who ask including friends and family are surprised conversations don’t really begin until March.” https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/cousins-timeline-takes?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook When I read those quotes when they were posted, and when I read them right now, I don't get the impression he wishes discussions were happening right now. Perhaps there is context I am missing. I took it to mean he was happy to wait until March. Those quotes do not sound to me like he wanted to be negotiating a deal right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: I took it to mean he was happy to wait until March. Those quotes do not sound to me like he wanted to be negotiating a deal right now. yes, i agree. and added as much after you quoted my post to be more clear. it's not me thinking he should have had convos by now, or trying to say Cousins feels that way. i'm trying to show the member here who does think that, that it doesn't happen that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, vike daddy said: other than, that's not what Kirk himself has said. that he's said he wishes plans were being discussed now, but he recognizes it has to wait until March. minor detail you're leaving out.... Your not getting what I’m saying, both partys could be staying hush hush, abt the Vikings potential non-interest in retaining Kirk. there could be an interest from the Kirk camp to leave that detail out, and talk about everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Your not getting what I’m saying, both partys could be staying hush hush, abt the Vikings potential non-interest in retaining Kirk. there could be an interest from the Kirk camp to leave that detail out, and talk about everything else. i suppose that COULD be the situation, as you write, but you have absolutely nothing to suggest it IS true. which you do state here: "I think Vikings have already told Kirk that we’re moving on." where does that opinion of your some from? who has said anything to support that? what are you basing that on? that no deal has been made, will not be made, and is intentionally being kept secret? because keep in mind, Cousins has publicly said talks aren't going to take place until March. so are you really saying...? the Vikes have told Cousins or his agent they won't be coming to terms Cousins knows this as fact he is purposely misleading the media and fans that the conversations just haven't taken place yet because that's quite a series of progressions to make, based on...? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWG VIKE Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 They say you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a bulls arse, but I would rather take the butchers word for it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 minutes ago, BWG VIKE said: They say you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a bulls arse, but I would rather take the butchers word for it. Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa...or Spanky? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: i suppose that COULD be the situation […] so are you really saying...? the Vikes have told Cousins or his agent they won't be coming to terms Cousins knows this as fact he is purposely misleading the media and fans that the conversations just haven't taken place yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Just now, CriminalMind said: 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: i suppose that COULD be the situation […] so are you really saying...? the Vikes have told Cousins or his agent they won't be coming to terms Cousins knows this as fact he is purposely misleading the media and fans that the conversations just haven't taken place yet Expand Messed up with the quotating. This is exactly what I’m thinking could be a fair possibility. KAM could be seen as acting rational, example ‘we had a contract offer in place in Sept, and once Kirk said no, we decided to start looking at other options, and nothing has changed over the last 6 months. His injury further hurt his cause and negotiating leverage.’ Kirk is seen as acting rational ‘I’m waiting till March to see where I’m going. I’m not going to eliminate Minny because I want other teams to think Minny is still pretty viable. Plus I don’t want it to become public knowledge that Minny is moving off of me and that’s Minny decision. Hurts me in free agency negotiating with other teams.’ Some non official (& official) media members have speculated this could be the case too, in the absence of publicly released information. You just have to look for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Some non official (& official) media members have speculated this could be the case too, in the absence of publicly released information. You just have to look for it. this reminds me of one of my grandmothers, my dad's mom... she was a pretty healthy old bird and lived in to her early 90's, but to hear her talk she was the most unhealthy person out there. insisting that she was sick with something, she'd go from doctor to doctor who all gave her a clean bill of health until she could find one that would passively agree, and would consent to having some tests run. now she felt vindicated that she truly was sick. she just had to look for it. Edited February 19 by vike daddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vike daddy said: this reminds me of one of my grandmothers, my dad's mom... she was a pretty healthy old bird and lived in to her early 90's, but to hear her talk she was the most unhealthy person out there. insisting that she was sick with something, she'd go from doctor to doctor until she could find one that would passively agreed, and would consent to having some tests run. now she felt vindicated that she truly was sick. she just had to look for it. It’s really not that hard to find. These individuals have been quoted on this board many times by multiple users for their information/speculation. Edited February 19 by CriminalMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, vike daddy said: this reminds me of one of my grandmothers, my dad's mom... she was a pretty healthy old bird and lived in to her early 90's, but to hear her talk she was the most unhealthy person out there. insisting that she was sick with something, she'd go from doctor to doctor who all gave her a clean bill of health until she could find one that would passively agree, and would consent to having some tests run. now she felt vindicated that she truly was sick. she just had to look for it. By chance did she go by Vike Grammy? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) Sounds like the Vikings are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Edited February 19 by SemperFeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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