PhillyRaider Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Eluemunor has shown he can play guard or either tackle spot, you're not going to get much more than that from a backup and it's a great piece to have. Spending another first on an edge with Crosby/Koonce having just spent a FRP on Tyree seems like a waste of resources when we have other glaring holes particularly at QB. Eluemunor has shown that he's a moron. We don't need a detriment like him on this team anymore. I don't see QB as a more urgent need than finding another threat opposite of Crosby who can consistently pressure the opposing QB, especially playing in a division with Mahomes, Herbert, and Wilson or whoever the Donks start/get. I'm cool with rolling with O'Connell for another season. I know you ain't but we can agree to disagree bro. I just would rather fill our glaring other needs then address the QB position if necessary. We just see the order of the rebuild differently is all. You want to hear something bro? Here's a name I'll throw out there for a GM candidate. You do your research and then tell me what you think... IAN CUNNINGHAM. That's who I want to be our next GM if it ain't Kelly. Edited January 4 by PhillyRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I'd be down. Note that Tez is apparently returning to Oregon for 2024 though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRaider Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Man I did a mock draft in a simulator but I can't post it because I can't post the screenshot here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 6 hours ago, PhillyRaider said: Eluemunor has shown that he's a moron. We don't need a detriment like him on this team anymore. I don't see QB as a more urgent need than finding another threat opposite of Crosby who can consistently pressure the opposing QB, especially playing in a division with Mahomes, Herbert, and Wilson or whoever the Donks start/get. I'm cool with rolling with O'Connell for another season. I know you ain't but we can agree to disagree bro. I just would rather fill our glaring other needs then address the QB position if necessary. We just see the order of the rebuild differently is all. Malcolm Koonce has been on a tear down the stretch this season and Wilson has shown signs of improvement. QB is a glaring need and by far the biggest need we have heading into the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 18 hours ago, NYRaider said: Team Moves GM: Ed Dodds HC: Jim Harbaugh OC: Greg Roman DC: Ejiro Evero Roster Moves Cuts: Jimmy Garoppolo, Hunter Renfrow, Jerry Tillery, Brian Hoyer, Brandon Faycon Exceptions: Chandler Jones ($12M in cap space created) Starting Cap Space: $92M Free Agency Re-signings: • Jermaine Eluemunor: 1 yr/$3M • Adam Butler: 2 yr/$4M • Greg Van Rotten: 1 yr/$2M • Jesper Horsted: 1 yr/$1M • Isaiah Palo-Mao 2 yr/$3M Free Agents: • Jaylon Johnson: 3 yr/$48M • Leonard Williams: 3 yr/$42M • Tyron Smith: 1 yr/$10M • Kevin Zeitler: 2 yr/$15M • Javon Kinlaw: 1 yr/$5M • Kendrick Bourne: 1 yr/$5M • Ryan Tannehill: 1 yr/$5M • D'Andre Swift: 2 yr/$13M • Noah Fant: 1 yr/$4M • Brandon Graham: 1 yr/$3M Draft Trade #11 to Indianapolis for #21, #55, #121 21. Michael Penix Jr | QB | Washington 42. T'Vondre Sweat | NT | Texas 52. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. | LB | Clemson 73. Malachi Corley | WR | Western Kentucky 112. Cam Hart | CB | Notre Dame 121. Marshawn Kneeland | Edge | Western Michigan 145. Donovan Edwards | RB | Michigan 201. Brandon Coleman | OL | TCU 220. Sione Vaki | S | Utah 224. Dallin Holker | TE | Colorado State 227. Tez Johnson | WR | Oregon Depth Chart QB - Michael Penix | Ryan Tannehill | Aidan O'Connell RB - D'Andre Swift | Zamir White | Donovan Edwards | Brittan Brown FB - Jakob Johnson WR - Davante Adams | Kendrick Bourne WR - Jakobi Meyers | Tre Tucker | Malachi Corley TE - Michael Mayer | Noah Fant | Jesper Horsted LT - Kolton Miller | Thayer Munford LG - Kevin Zeitler | Jordan Meredith C - Dylan Parham RG - Greg Van Rotten | Brandon Coleman RT - Tyron Smith | Jermaine Eluemunor ------------------------------------------ DE - Maxx Crosby | Malcolm Koonce DT - Leonard Williams | Adam Butler | Byron Young DT - T'Vondre Sweat | Javon Kinlaw DE - Tyree Wilson | Brandon Graham | Marshawn Kneeland LB - Robert Spillane LB - Divine Deablo | Luke Masterson LB - Jeremiah Trotter | Amari Burney CB - Jaylon Johnson | Jakorian Bennett | Cam Hart CB - Jack Jones | Nate Hobbs | Tyler Hall SS - Marcus Epps | Isaiah Palo-Maoa FS - Trevon Moehrig | Chris Smith | Sione Vaki Like most of it , I would probably try and add Brisset at back up QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRaider Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 30 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Malcolm Koonce has been on a tear down the stretch this season and Wilson has shown signs of improvement. QB is a glaring need and by far the biggest need we have heading into the offseason. Bro, we just disagree. That's all. Koonce may be on a tear but he did nothing last game and he's not a cornerstone guy opposite Maxx. That's what I'm aiming for. Maxx is the franchise. You get another cornerstone guy opposite him. Build the pass rush. I'm ok with O'Connell for now. Realistically, we ain't going to compete for a Super Bowl next year anyway. We got too many holes to fill. Right now, I do not see QB as one of them. I'd rather build the lines, secondary, linebackers, and receiving corps. Edited January 5 by PhillyRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, raidr4life said: Like most of it , I would probably try and add Brisset at back up QB. Brissett would be dope as well, thanks for the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Am a fan of it for the most part. Just not sure Penix will be there after his most recent performance. If it turned out like this though I’d be very happy with the offseason compared to ones past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, PhillyRaider said: Bro, we just disagree. That's all. Koonce may be on a tear but he did nothing last game and he's not a cornerstone guy opposite Maxx. That's what I'm aiming for. Maxx is the franchise. You get another cornerstone guy opposite him. Build the pass rush. I'm ok with O'Connell for now. Realistically, we ain't going to compete for a Super Bowl next year anyway. We got too many holes to fill. Right now, I do not see QB as one of them. I'd rather build the lines, secondary, linebackers, and receiving corps. QB isn't a need but receiver is with Adams and Meyers? Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 18 hours ago, PhillyRaider said: Eluemunor has shown that he's a moron. We don't need a detriment like him on this team anymore. I don't see QB as a more urgent need than finding another threat opposite of Crosby who can consistently pressure the opposing QB, especially playing in a division with Mahomes, Herbert, and Wilson or whoever the Donks start/get. I'm cool with rolling with O'Connell for another season. I know you ain't but we can agree to disagree bro. I just would rather fill our glaring other needs then address the QB position if necessary. We just see the order of the rebuild differently is all. You want to hear something bro? Here's a name I'll throw out there for a GM candidate. You do your research and then tell me what you think... IAN CUNNINGHAM. That's who I want to be our next GM if it ain't Kelly. Bro most of what you’ve said in this thread is crazy. You’re cool with AOC? Like bottom 10 QB play? Really?!? Koonce is good. I have no idea how you have edge over QB in terms of need. Your other post in this thread is out there as well. WR over QB as well? Without a QB that can go toe to toe with Herbert, Mahomes, and the other top AFC QBs (Tua, Burrow, Jackson), none of your recommendations matter. if we roll with AOC I expect another 8-9 win season even if we do add to every level on defense and WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 1/3/2024 at 10:04 PM, NYRaider said: Team Moves GM: Ed Dodds HC: Jim Harbaugh OC: Greg Roman DC: Ejiro Evero Roster Moves Cuts: Jimmy Garoppolo, Hunter Renfrow, Jerry Tillery, Brian Hoyer, Brandon Faycon Exceptions: Chandler Jones ($12M in cap space created) Starting Cap Space: $92M Free Agency Re-signings: • Jermaine Eluemunor: 1 yr/$3M • Adam Butler: 2 yr/$4M • Greg Van Rotten: 1 yr/$2M • Jesper Horsted: 1 yr/$1M • Isaiah Palo-Mao 2 yr/$3M Free Agents: • Jaylon Johnson: 3 yr/$48M • Leonard Williams: 3 yr/$42M • Tyron Smith: 1 yr/$10M • Kevin Zeitler: 2 yr/$15M • Javon Kinlaw: 1 yr/$5M • Kendrick Bourne: 1 yr/$5M • Ryan Tannehill: 1 yr/$5M • D'Andre Swift: 2 yr/$13M • Noah Fant: 1 yr/$4M • Brandon Graham: 1 yr/$3M Draft Trade #11 to Indianapolis for #21, #55, #121 21. Michael Penix Jr | QB | Washington 42. T'Vondre Sweat | NT | Texas 52. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. | LB | Clemson 73. Malachi Corley | WR | Western Kentucky 112. Cam Hart | CB | Notre Dame 121. Marshawn Kneeland | Edge | Western Michigan 145. Donovan Edwards | RB | Michigan 201. Brandon Coleman | OL | TCU 220. Sione Vaki | S | Utah 224. Dallin Holker | TE | Colorado State 227. Tez Johnson | WR | Oregon Depth Chart QB - Michael Penix | Ryan Tannehill | Aidan O'Connell RB - D'Andre Swift | Zamir White | Donovan Edwards | Brittan Brown FB - Jakob Johnson WR - Davante Adams | Kendrick Bourne WR - Jakobi Meyers | Tre Tucker | Malachi Corley TE - Michael Mayer | Noah Fant | Jesper Horsted LT - Kolton Miller | Thayer Munford LG - Kevin Zeitler | Jordan Meredith C - Dylan Parham RG - Greg Van Rotten | Brandon Coleman RT - Tyron Smith | Jermaine Eluemunor ------------------------------------------ DE - Maxx Crosby | Malcolm Koonce DT - Leonard Williams | Adam Butler | Byron Young DT - T'Vondre Sweat | Javon Kinlaw DE - Tyree Wilson | Brandon Graham | Marshawn Kneeland LB - Robert Spillane LB - Divine Deablo | Luke Masterson LB - Jeremiah Trotter | Amari Burney CB - Jaylon Johnson | Jakorian Bennett | Cam Hart CB - Jack Jones | Nate Hobbs | Tyler Hall SS - Marcus Epps | Isaiah Palo-Maoa FS - Trevon Moehrig | Chris Smith | Sione Vaki What did we do with pick #55? Or is that a typo? if we get Penix with a trade down where we get a first, a second, and a fourth I’m going to be shedding actual tears. Penix is looking like a first round pick right now. Also, his age (23) is the same as Burrows when he was drafted. So that whole argument should be non existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 12 hours ago, raidr4life said: Like most of it , I would probably try and add Brisset at back up QB. I mean he is a better backup than Hoyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRaider Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: QB isn't a need but receiver is with Adams and Meyers? Gotcha. Adams had a down year and might get traded, Renfrow was non-existant will be gone, Meyers was good, Tucker is a rookie and was up and down. So yes, we need to build the receiving corps. Unless you're cool with going into next season in this state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRaider Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Jerry said: Bro most of what you’ve said in this thread is crazy. You’re cool with AOC? Like bottom 10 QB play? Really?!? Koonce is good. I have no idea how you have edge over QB in terms of need. Your other post in this thread is out there as well. WR over QB as well? Without a QB that can go toe to toe with Herbert, Mahomes, and the other top AFC QBs (Tua, Burrow, Jackson), none of your recommendations matter. if we roll with AOC I expect another 8-9 win season even if we do add to every level on defense and WR. O'Connell beat Kansas City in KC. So what do you mean he can't go toe to toe with the QBs in the division? Are you blind or stupid? Koonce is ok nothing special. We need special on the opposite side of Maxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 51 minutes ago, PhillyRaider said: O'Connell beat Kansas City in KC. So what do you mean he can't go toe to toe with the QBs in the division? Are you blind or stupid? Koonce is ok nothing special. We need special on the opposite side of Maxx. The team won in KC despite AOC who didn't complete a pass for 3 quarters. Edited January 5 by big_palooka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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