Post-Draft Chat

[justwinbaby81]

I think if you get a top 3 player talent-wise in the draft at 13 it's already a good draft grade. Another first round talent in the 40s makes it an A to me. I can see people downgrading based on their positions but Bowers and to a lesser extent JPJ are both versatile so I think that helps more. No QB but I wasn't impressed with any QB we could have gotten except Daniels. The further down the draft the tougher it is to project but top-end talent we made up ground on other teams in my opinion. A grade from me.

[Rich7sena]

35 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said:

Wait when did he say that Minshew is the premsuptive starter?

I misheard what the question was during the post day 2 interview. He affirmed that there would be a competition between Minshew and O'Connell.

[FloydFan]

Cannot imagine thinking Bowers is an overrated prospect. Insane contrarian nonsense. 

[Jeremy408]

3 hours ago, raidr4life said:

Minshew just got Pittman paid with 109 receptions. The Colts were very competitive and almost made the playoffs if it wasn't for Stroud.

 well actually if you watch that game a running back drop the dump off on for down the end of the game. He catches that check down maybe maybe we end up paying Minshew more money

[S&B Bleeder]

On 4/27/2024 at 4:45 PM, jpaulthe1st said:

We have the worst QB room in the NFL and did nothing (early or late) to change that. If we drafted Travis or Rattler in the 4th I would give it a B+ and if we would have also drafted a WR or RB I would have given it an A. 

I watched Rattler a lot during the season and initially I liked him, but he was not ready to be a first string QB in the NFL.  He is not better than the two QB's we currently have in AOC & GM.  I am so glad we didn't pick him.

[NCOUGHMAN]

5 hours ago, Jeremy408 said:

And this was my whole thing in the beginning in terms of trading draft picks for quarterbacks with where we were at. The reason why everybody would rather trade picks for a quarterback it's not only because of the needed quarterback it's because we've seen what the Raiders do with draft picks so our assumption is draft picks are valuable because the Raiders don't draft well. But like in hindsight would you have given up Powers Johnson and Brock Bowers and a first and second from next year to get JJ McCarthy was there being a 30% chance that Aiden O'Connell potentially beats him out? Those are questions that a competent GM thinks about. 

The way the board played out I would’ve tried to trade down 

[NCOUGHMAN]

4 hours ago, Darbsk said:

This is interesting, thinking about each draft Telesco & Pierce v Pats West:  

Round 1: Wilson v Bowers is a clear win for Telesco/Pierce to me. One was over drafted and one was a BPA that was a great value. Of course, if Wilson becomes a Pro Bowl DE that would be more valuable than a TE imo but is that likely?

Round 2 : Mayer v JPJ is a tough one. I love both players and both should probably have gone earlier and we’re good value. I’d give the edge to JPJ as I think he’s got All Pro potential. Advantage Telesco/Pierce.

Round 3 : Young & Tucker v Glaze is another tough one. I simply don’t know enough about Glaze but Tucker did make some nice plays and had some flashes for sure. A starting RT would be more valuable but I’m sceptical Glaze is a starter so I’ll give this one to Pats West.

Round 4 : Bennett & O’Connell v Richardson. A QB that can start in the 4th and a CB that played in several games? Advantage Pats West.

Round 5 : Smith v Eichenberg. Smith underwhelmed and didn’t get on the field even though I initially liked the pick. I think Eichenberg will make more initial impact but Smith has a chance to be better long term maybe? At this stage, advantage Telesco & Pierce.

Round 6 : Burney v Laube. Both figure to be ST players but maybe Laube could be better value in kick return and as a receiving back? Slight edge Telesco & Pierce.

Round 7 : Nesta v Taylor. I still think Nesta has starter potential or at least rotation potential, Taylor is probably a ST maven at best, advantage Pats West.

It’s quite close but before this class has taken any snaps I’d give the edge to Telesco and Pierce but with a big asterix that nobody from this class has taken a snap!

 

Yea but usually first gut reactions don’t change 

both drafts were underwhelming Imo but it will be interesting to see how they play 

[Jeremy408]

22 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said:

The way the board played out I would’ve tried to trade down 

And then what? Take who?

[NCOUGHMAN]

1 hour ago, Jeremy408 said:

And then what? Take who?

Fuaga if I couldn’t trade down 

trade down depends on the trade partner 

[Jeremy408]

Just now, NCOUGHMAN said:

Fuaga if I couldn’t trade down 

trade down depends on the trade partner 

Im saying who would you take if you traded down

[NCOUGHMAN]

8 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said:

Im saying who would you take if you traded down

Depends on who we traded with to see who is on the board

[Jeremy408]

2 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said:

Depends on who we traded with to see who is on the board

Put up a scenario.

[raidr4life]

2 hours ago, Jeremy408 said:

 well actually if you watch that game a running back drop the dump off on for down the end of the game. He catches that check down maybe maybe we end up paying Minshew more money

Yeah I was going to add that, it wasn't the best throw but it should have been caught.

[Jeremy408]

2 minutes ago, raidr4life said:

Yeah I was going to add that, it wasn't the best throw but it should have been caught.

for what its worth. this is the best offensive roster that hes ever played with

[raidr4life]

6 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said:

for what its worth. this is the best offensive roster that hes ever played with

Exactly! More weapons and a strong Defense to back him. I wanted him when we signed Garappolo last year, without getting into a debate about one of our former QB's, I've always said this team could win with a perceived lesser talented QB, who did the little things and played with fire and grit made plays with his legs and just showed a never quite attitude.

Edited April 29 by raidr4life