3rivers Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 5 hours ago, 43M said: If they can find a role that Leal can be effective in, great. However, its looking more and more like a dud. This is a make or break season for him, and Im leaning towards the latter. the role for Leal is either a comdian or a trade. He's useless here, won't or shouldn't see playing time unless too many injuries allow. TJ, Alex, Herbig and Golden > leal and if they play leal as a 5T, then fire the DL coach if he is trying to make that work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Markus Golden retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Explains the shift for Leal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 35 minutes ago, warfelg said: Markus Golden retired. Maybe Leal still has a chance Thats wild though - Nick Farabaugh was saying he looked almost unblockable in his first practice back with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 https://x.com/chasedaniel/status/1821944295521169876?s=46&t=qcRuXjH2St1oLeP8Aph7Og Interesting note on Justin Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 29 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said: https://x.com/chasedaniel/status/1821944295521169876?s=46&t=qcRuXjH2St1oLeP8Aph7Og Interesting note on Justin Fields Kind of weird data. Josh Allen had step change increases while Fields was incremental. I'm still skeptical of what Fields can provide long term (no matter what, should be better than Kenny tbf). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlon Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 2 hours ago, warfelg said: Explains the shift for Leal. Um, ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 12 hours ago, rlon said: Um, ok I heard the shift was just for this game as Watt was not playing but we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler Hitman Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 5 Up & 5 Down Preseason, so I put an aesteric next to everything (good and bad). Up 1. Good debut and game start for Payton Wilson. It's preseason, but he made plays and was for the most part always around the ball. I like his speed and coverage potential. 2. Defensive pass rush looked good. Better depth there than I thought. The second and third tier guys got after the QB consistently. 3. Montravius Adams and DeMarvin Leal showed signs of improvement. They are backups, but looked better than they have against other backups in the past. 4. Justin Fields didn't play poorly. The OL didn't help his cause. His passing was pretty accurate despite the pressure he received. 5. Zach Frazier and Mason Mccormick made a strong debuts. Frazier seemed to solidify the Center & QB exchange problems. Spencer Anderson and Dylan Cook seemed to help themselves. 5 Downs 1. Coverage and fielding of punts and kickoff's. Quez and Plumlee looked bad. I get it is new for Plumlee, but I expected Quez to do more as a receiver and potential returner. They look like they are headed to the USFL. Poor Center snap led to a missed EP. Failing OVERALL grade for special teams. F 2. Nate Herbig. I have been high on him since his signing. He is a dawg and has a mean streak, but has not stood out in games. He didn't help himself with two bad Center/QB exchanges. I am not blaming him entirely, but it did help his cause. 3. 3rd Down defense. TD pass given up on third down to Stroud and several other drives extended because of poor third down defense. 4. Pass protection from the OT's was poor. Our OL will be a strength, but they struggled protecting the QB's. 5. Turnovers. Self inflicted wounds vbury this team. Most gamers that the Steelers lose, they lose the Turnover battle. Four turnovers is never acceptable. JV performance! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I look more to individual performances than breakdowns in zone coverage. Frazier should be #1 center going forward. The hard thing about Fautanu's injury is that he is missing 2 weeks of reps that he needs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 15 minutes ago, Steeler Hitman said: 5 Up & 5 Down Preseason, so I put an aesteric next to everything (good and bad). Up 1. Good debut and game start for Payton Wilson. It's preseason, but he made plays and was for the most part always around the ball. I like his speed and coverage potential. 2. Defensive pass rush looked good. Better depth there than I thought. The second and third tier guys got after the QB consistently. 3. Montravius Adams and DeMarvin Leal showed signs of improvement. They are backups, but looked better than they have against other backups in the past. 4. Justin Fields didn't play poorly. The OL didn't help his cause. His passing was pretty accurate despite the pressure he received. 5. Zach Frazier and Mason Mccormick made a strong debuts. Frazier seemed to solidify the Center & QB exchange problems. Spencer Anderson and Dylan Cook seemed to help themselves. 5 Downs 1. Coverage and fielding of punts and kickoff's. Quez and Plumlee looked bad. I get it is new for Plumlee, but I expected Quez to do more as a receiver and potential returner. They look like they are headed to the USFL. Poor Center snap led to a missed EP. Failing OVERALL grade for special teams. F 2. Nate Herbig. I have been high on him since his signing. He is a dawg and has a mean streak, but has not stood out in games. He didn't help himself with two bad Center/QB exchanges. I am not blaming him entirely, but it did help his cause. 3. 3rd Down defense. TD pass given up on third down to Stroud and several other drives extended because of poor third down defense. 4. Pass protection from the OT's was poor. Our OL will be a strength, but they struggled protecting the QB's. 5. Turnovers. Self inflicted wounds vbury this team. Most gamers that the Steelers lose, they lose the Turnover battle. Four turnovers is never acceptable. JV performance! I saw a video from someone reviewing those bad exchanges. He said that on the fumbled snaps, the OC was snapping and quickly moving to his left or right to get to his assignment. He zoomed in on the snap and showed how the OC was moving go one side or the other, but the QB kept his hands stationary. So, as the OC moves to his right or left, the QB is supposed to move his hands in that direction to get a clean snap. The QB didn't do that. He also stated that it's either the OC needs to wait to get the snap off before moving or the QB needs to move his hands with him and either way, that needs to be figured out prior to gametime. Not being an OL guru, I'm not sure how accurate that is but it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR43 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Is Beanie Bishop still the favorite to win the nickel corner slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler Hitman Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Chieferific said: I saw a video from someone reviewing those bad exchanges. He said that on the fumbled snaps, the OC was snapping and quickly moving to his left or right to get to his assignment. This is why QB and OC work on snaps. They have been working together all preseason and camp. That should not be an issue. Someday much as we used to complain about the poor Shotgun snaps, this was worse. 🤯 He zoomed in on the snap and showed how the OC was moving go one side or the other, but the QB kept his hands stationary. A tweak thshould have been ironed out in the 100s of practice snaps and the multiple practice and scrimmage reps. I think some may have been game jitters on one or both players. So, as the OC moves to his right or left, the QB is supposed to move his hands in that direction to get a clean snap. The QB didn't do that. On one or both, but not a good look. Timing was off in many aspects of the game. He also stated that it's either the OC needs to wait to get the snap off before moving or the QB needs to move his hands with him and either way, that needs to be figured out prior to gametime. Not being an OL guru, I'm not sure how accurate that is but it makes sense. 👌🏿👍🏿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler Hitman Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, DR43 said: Is Beanie Bishop still the favorite to win the nickel corner slot? I would guess yes for now, but he is really just trying to be serviceable until Sutton returns. They may use CB by committee as well. Ryan Watts played a decent game, but is too big for an ideal slot. He may press Trice and Rush moreso than Bishop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, jebrick said: The hard thing about Fautanu's injury is that he is missing 2 weeks of reps that he needs agree, but it could also help Jones, who can use those reps as well 1 hour ago, DR43 said: Is Beanie Bishop still the favorite to win the nickel corner slot? week 9 it won't matter anymore, but maybe for now Beanie has it? He has been quite a find according to many, Minkah even likes his ethic. I am waiting for Trice to get out there and win CB2 across from Porter eventually. Should be Sneed across from Porter, but Khan missed out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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