Brat&Beer Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Leader said: What Matt really needs to say to Watson: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Eerily similar if you take all their differences and just ignore them. I need to start using the green font when I'm joking, which is roughly about half the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Didn't see this anywhere, one advantage to being bad, early waiver claim. I had Kelly in my top 100 last year and we get a look at him for free. Nice work Gutey. Hopefully the kid can play special teams well. It would be great if he could fit in behind Valentine and develop into a decent CB 4/5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Does anybody have a Stathead subscription? I signed up for their free month trial and every time I've tried searching for player seasons it says there was an error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 At least we aren't the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: At least we aren't the Bills. We will be if we give Love that contract. Josh Allen was at 53% and 6.5 YPA. They surrounded him with talent. He looked better with that talent. They gave him that contract. They were not able to keep the talent around him because he started winning more games, ruining their draft capital, costing in cap space. This is the cycle of every NFL team. We don’t have the luxury of 4 years on a rookie contract with Love. If we extend him, it’s going to lead to a gradual, slow downturn that will waste a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, MacReady said: We will be if we give Love that contract. Josh Allen was at 53% and 6.5 YPA. They surrounded him with talent. He looked better with that talent. They gave him that contract. They were not able to keep the talent around him because he started winning more games, ruining their draft capital, costing in cap space. This is the cycle of every NFL team. We don’t have the luxury of 4 years on a rookie contract with Love. If we extend him, it’s going to lead to a gradual, slow downturn that will waste a decade. They've kept all the talent around him, where did Diggs go? They've invested in Gabe Davis, Kincaid, Cook, Shakir. The problem with Buffalo is why I'm leery to add any tough, regimented assistant as a HC, they turn programs around, but the schtick gets old and the players stop buying in if the results don't come immediately. Saleh and Campbell will run into this too. BB is up against it right now. The only guys who last are the Reid's, Tomlin's, John Harbaugh, Mac's etc... player coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: They've kept all the talent around him, where did Diggs go? They've invested in Gabe Davis, Kincaid, Cook, Shakir. The problem with Buffalo is why I'm leery to add any tough, regimented assistant as a HC, they turn programs around, but the schtick gets old and the players stop buying in if the results don't come immediately. Saleh and Campbell will run into this too. BB is up against it right now. The only guys who last are the Reid's, Tomlin's, John Harbaugh, Mac's etc... player coaches. This, and Josh Allen keeps throwing it to the other team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Packerraymond Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leader said: Not to come to Barry's aid at all, but this is exactly what the Fangio defense does, sacrificing run defense to stop explosive aerial attacks. Now when those defenses were dominant in Chi/SF, he had elite DL's to limit the run game big plays, that and Fangio himself had better defensive calls than Barry. The game has changed a lot since Fangio's hay day too, his defense got big when teams were stubborn and sticking to their vertical schemes, just like all fads (read option being the most recent) eventually you get figured out and everyone adjusts. The defense works for preventing explosive passes though. Evidence is obvious. You just need a Bosa, Buckner, Armstead or Hicks, Floyd, Mack level of talent on your DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Not to come to Barry's aid at all, but this is exactly what the Fangio defense does, sacrificing run defense to stop explosive aerial attacks. Now when those defenses were dominant in Chi/SF, he had elite DL's to limit the run game big plays, that and Fangio himself had better defensive calls than Barry. The game has changed a lot since Fangio's hay day too, his defense got big when teams were stubborn and sticking to their vertical schemes, just like all fads (read option being the most recent) eventually you get figured out and everyone adjusts. The defense works for preventing explosive passes though. Evidence is obvious. You just need a Bosa, Buckner, Armstead or Hicks, Floyd, Mack level of talent on your DL. Sure, Ray Barry. I absolutely am not a fan of modern defense. Two deep safeties , letting up the run. Weak s*** if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Not to come to Barry's aid at all, but this is exactly what the Fangio defense does, sacrificing run defense to stop explosive aerial attacks. Now when those defenses were dominant in Chi/SF, he had elite DL's to limit the run game big plays, that and Fangio himself had better defensive calls than Barry. The game has changed a lot since Fangio's hay day too, his defense got big when teams were stubborn and sticking to their vertical schemes, just like all fads (read option being the most recent) eventually you get figured out and everyone adjusts. The defense works for preventing explosive passes though. Evidence is obvious. You just need a Bosa, Buckner, Armstead or Hicks, Floyd, Mack level of talent on your DL. SF just supplemented the DL talent 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: Sure, Ray Barry. I absolutely am not a fan of modern defense. Two deep safeties , letting up the run. Weak s*** if you ask me. It will change. About time for the next fad to arrive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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