SemperFeist Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 6 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Wasn't Manning mostly playing with backup level talent given all the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Wasn't Manning mostly playing with backup level talent given all the injuries. Sort of. But really all that was lost was OBJ. Brandon Marshall hasn’t been relevant in a while, and wasn’t putting up anything while playing, and was even dropping passes. Sheppard was dropping stuff, and their rookie Engram led the league in TE drops I believe. Team just struggled all around at catching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 While this thread is on the 2017 WRs, let's talk about the 2018 WRs... Quote Wide receiver Laquon Treadwell, whose first two seasons in Minnesota have been disappointing, also could use a change of scenery. He has struggled to find a role among a loaded group of receivers. The Vikings could be proactive this offseason in looking for a place to trade him and could possibly pick up a mid-round draft pick in exchange. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x180214/nfl-players-need-change-scenery-all-32-teams#NFC N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Would be interesting to see if he could be enough trade bait to gain a 4th rounder to make up for that lost pick. I find it doubtful, could be interesting tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, gopherwrestler said: Would be interesting to see if he could be enough trade bait to gain a 4th rounder to make up for that lost pick. I find it doubtful, could be interesting tho. It would be great to get a fourth round pick for him. It might be tough to find a team willing to part with a pick that high for him but if the offer was there I would take it without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I still wouldn’t take the pick for him. Treadwell’s numbers suggest a bad pick, but his tape consistently shows a guy who gets open, and is a great blocker, and who’s been a reliable target when given an opportunity. Treadwell is still only 22, and with legit injury concerns regarding Diggs, I’d hate to lose the depth and potential, especially for the current price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, SemperFeist said: I still wouldn’t take the pick for him. Treadwell’s numbers suggest a bad pick, but his tape consistently shows a guy who gets open, and is a great blocker, and who’s been a reliable target when given an opportunity. Treadwell is still only 22, and with legit injury concerns regarding Diggs, I’d hate to lose the depth and potential, especially for the current price. thank you. giving up on the guy and under selling him? no thanks to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: I still wouldn’t take the pick for him. Treadwell’s numbers suggest a bad pick, but his tape consistently shows a guy who gets open, and is a great blocker, and who’s been a reliable target when given an opportunity. Treadwell is still only 22, and with legit injury concerns regarding Diggs, I’d hate to lose the depth and potential, especially for the current price. I get the depth argument but from what I have seen even when Thielan or Diggs is dinged Treadwell's involvement in the offense is fairly limited. If you can get a fourth round pick for a guy that you are using as a 4th WR on your depth chart you take it unless there is some reason to believe that he'll be moving up the depth chart. I believe that Thielan and Diggs are firmly entrenched as starters and don't see Treadwell passing Wright this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It happens every year, maybe because this is a draft site at its core, but I’ll never understand why fans value draft picks so much. Especially for mid-late round picks. If you’re intent on getting the 4th round pick back, you’re better off trading down a few spots and picking one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Cearbhall said: I get the depth argument but from what I have seen even when Thielan or Diggs is dinged Treadwell's involvement in the offense is fairly limited. If you can get a fourth round pick for a guy that you are using as a 4th WR on your depth chart you take it unless there is some reason to believe that he'll be moving up the depth chart. I believe that Thielan and Diggs are firmly entrenched as starters and don't see Treadwell passing Wright this year. Treadwell played more than Wright by nearly twice as many snaps (500 to 254). I’d say he’s already surpassed him on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, SemperFeist said: It happens every year, maybe because this is a draft site at its core, but I’ll never understand why fans value draft picks so much. Especially for mid-late round picks. If you’re intent on getting the 4th round pick back, you’re better off trading down a few spots and picking one up. Perhaps. It is hard to gauge the value of draft picks. I would submit that in the salary cap era it is very important to always have an inflow of cheap useful labor to put around a team's core. It is not possible to pay every position above average salaries so a team needs to find where they can get some cheap starters and depth too. However, for me it is more a case of not seeing much value in keeping Treadwell on the roster than valuing the draft pick highly. Treadwell is already 2 years into his cheap years and it seems unlikely to me that he'll be brought back after the first four given the situation on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Treadwell played more than Wright by nearly twice as many snaps (500 to 254). I’d say he’s already surpassed him on the depth chart. That is interesting. This is a fact that I believe someone told me earlier that I had lost track of. The team gets a lot better production out of Wright in the snaps he plays than the production they get out of Treadwell. Treadwell does seem to be a very good run blocker and he had one outstanding catch this year. Perhaps the team thinks with more use he'll have a few more catches like that in the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It seems like we'd be selling pretty low on Treadwell right now, unless someone like Shurmur saw enough that he'd want to give him a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: It seems like we'd be selling pretty low on Treadwell right now, unless someone like Shurmur saw enough that he'd want to give him a shot Selling low is better than getting nothing in return. Does Treadwell do anything in year 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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