Is Bill Bellichick solely to blame for Patriots loss?

[CKSteeler]

Just now, Eagles23 said:

Secure the catch then worry about YAC. That's nothing new. Want to reach forward while going to the ground? Don't let the ball hit the ground

Of course, that's not what the rule states. The ball is explicitly allowed to touch the ground. Any time a player is extending, there is a good/better than not chance it will touch the ground and with that a chance it comes loose.

Of course, on the James play, he had secured the catch and then tried to get YAC. Clear as day. But some guy in NY decided that he didn't possess it for a completely unspecified and arbitrary  length of time he deemed necessary for him to become a "runner" despite pulling the ball into his body and then lunging with it across the goal line. Something he could only do with control.

There's the problem with those who keep arguing the catch rule is just fine. They don't even want to read what the rule actually says.

[CKSteeler]

6 minutes ago, lancerman said:

 

Irony is it came out that Belichick does exactly that. 

If this is a story, I missed it. I only know what Lombardi said on the matter. Which was always nonsense. So it was said that Belichick stated he always teaches players to lung with the ball or something?

[Buc Ball]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-agrees-with-jesse-james-ruling-says-rule-on-catches-very-clearly-stated/amp/

Here’s a story which covers the Jesse James situation and it mentions about a Pats players being coached to secure the ball first before trying to extend/ get YAC. The source is apparently “Pats players” rather than Lombardi.

The level of attention to detail Bellichick has leads me to expect that he’d coach receivers in this way. Most receiver coaches I know coach a three step process for catching the ball:

1) catch the ball

2) secure the ball

3) get YAC 

Add in Bellichick’s style of coaching where he focuses on small details, smart decisions and consistency and it makes sense that he’d coach it in that way. 

The rule is very clear on players going to the ground and catches in the end zone. If you’re falling over while you’re still establishing yourself as a runner, you’re going to the ground. You therefore need to maintain control of the ball when you hit the ground. The requirements for catches in the end zone are the same as the requirements for catches in the field of play.

There’s nothing difficult to this rule. Only people unwilling to understand it and a media who desperately needs content, so claims “controversy” where there isn’t any.

 

[steelcurtain29]

The whole Butler situation was nothing more than Belicheck being egotistical. He let his pride take over his will to win.

[Kip Smithers]

9 hours ago, CKSteeler said:

Of course, that's not what the rule states. The ball is explicitly allowed to touch the ground. Any time a player is extending, there is a good/better than not chance it will touch the ground and with that a chance it comes loose.

Of course, on the James play, he had secured the catch and then tried to get YAC. Clear as day. But some guy in NY decided that he didn't possess it for a completely unspecified and arbitrary  length of time he deemed necessary for him to become a "runner" despite pulling the ball into his body and then lunging with it across the goal line. Something he could only do with control.

There's the problem with those who keep arguing the catch rule is just fine. They don't even want to read what the rule actually says.

Are people still on this Jessie James catch? It wasn’t a catch. Simple as that. 

[Kip Smithers]

1 hour ago, steelcurtain29 said:

The whole Butler situation was nothing more than Belicheck being egotistical. He let his pride take over his will to win.

Honestly we still haven’t gotten a valid explanation, so I would not disagree with this