duke2056 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 This seems like a pretty decent and deep draft through the middle of round 2. When the Bills offer us 12/22 and future 1st (or 2nd this year maybe), please click the accept button Mr Dorsey. Speaking of accepting offers, I wonder what sort of sophisticated setup they have going on for that kinda thing. They can't just use a speaker phone right? Right??? I would imagine they have a few screens set up with a few "runners" anytime any sort of offer or interest is put out there by another team. I imagine it looks like Enders Game or some crap in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, duke2056 said: This seems like a pretty decent and deep draft through the middle of round 2. When the Bills offer us 12/22 and future 1st (or 2nd this year maybe), please click the accept button Mr Dorsey. Speaking of accepting offers, I wonder what sort of sophisticated setup they have going on for that kinda thing. They can't just use a speaker phone right? Right??? I would imagine they have a few screens set up with a few "runners" anytime any sort of offer or interest is put out there by another team. I imagine it looks like Enders Game or some crap in there. Enders game is boss. Great book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Aztec Hammer said: Apples to oranges Well it isn't fair to compare apples to apples the Buckeye defense was supposedly terrible when they played Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Great post comparing Baker and Darnold @Mind Character. It's funny, because early on this season, I was previewing OSU v OU with a buddy for an online radio show. In watching his tape, I remarked that, despite how good he's been, it was so rare to see him "thread the needle." Though I didn't quite have the mind of a coach/scout, I think it was clear that the Lincoln Riley offense played a huge part in Baker's success. I just don't get it though, guys as high up as Dorsey and McCloughan HAVE to recognize this, no? We do know that Dorsey went to six of Baker's games, but this was BEFORE he knew he'd have the #1 pick, and the chance at any of the QB's he desires. My heart still has me convinced that in the end, it will be Darnold, but the idea that Baker will be the guy is still hanging by a thread in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said: Great post comparing Baker and We do know that Dorsey went to six of Baker's games, but this was BEFORE he knew he'd have the #1 pick, and the chance at any of the QB's he desires. That is a fantastic point never had that mentioned before not that I ever thought it’d be any player other than Darnold but yeah great point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said: the Lincoln Riley offense played a huge part in Baker's success. I just don't get it though, guys as high up as Dorsey and McCloughan HAVE to recognize this, no? No. That's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, bruceb said: No. That's the problem. How do you know this? All Dorsey does is watch tape. He must have recognized the difficulty of throws that Darnold has made compared to Mayfield's throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said: How do you know this? All Dorsey does is watch tape. He must have recognized the difficulty of throws that Darnold has made compared to Mayfield's throughout the season. I do not. Simply observed that they do not have to recognize this. Especially if they are predisposed otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, bruceb said: I do not. Simply observed that they do not have to recognize this. Especially if they are predisposed otherwise. E.g., "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock Guess who? http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 It's the apparent Farve/Farve-like fixation that troubles me. Then again, the last paragraph sure sounds more like Darnold than Mayfield, although Darnold already throws with much better anticipation: "BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, bruceb said: E.g., "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock Guess who? http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 It's the apparent Farve/Farve-like fixation that troubles me. Then again, the last paragraph sure sounds more like Darnold than Mayfield, although Darnold already throws with much better anticipation: "BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect." Sounds more like Allen if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I’m worried Josh Allen is the pick. It’ll be such a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, bosko1616 said: Sounds more like Allen if you ask me Nah: Passing Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career Texas Tech 857 1349 63.5 11252 8.3 8.8 93 29 152.0 2014 Texas Tech Big 12 FR QB 7 105 185 56.8 1547 8.4 9.1 16 4 151.2 *2015 Texas Tech Big 12 SO QB 13 364 573 63.5 4653 8.1 8.2 36 15 147.2 2016 Texas Tech Big 12 JR QB 12 388 591 65.7 5052 8.5 9.2 41 10 157.0 *2017 Texas Tech Big 12 SR QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, bruceb said: E.g., "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock Guess who? http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 It's the apparent Farve/Farve-like fixation that troubles me. Then again, the last paragraph sure sounds more like Darnold than Mayfield, although Darnold already throws with much better anticipation: "BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect." You made a good point in mentioning predisposition. I do think that Mayfield is of the Mahomes mold, and we've heard McCloughan compare Baker to Brett Favre. Something else did occur to me though, what if McCloughan leaked his thoughts as a means for deception? Working alongside Dorsey, it would not be out of the realm of possibility that Scot keeps his true beliefs close to the vest as well. Yes, Baker has the better arm strength. At the same time, you could make the case that Darnold has more of a gunslinger mentality. He may not have the Josh Allen rocket arm, but the dude ain't Cody Kessler either. He can throw a great deep ball, as deep as it needs to go unless you're down 8 on your own 20 with one second left...then yeah, pretty sure neither Sam nor Baker can make that throw. Then again...there's always Josh Allen. 1 minute ago, bosko1616 said: I’m worried Josh Allen is the pick. It’ll be such a waste. My comment above about Allen...totally joking. There's no way the Browns are drafting him. If I could bet in Vegas that Cle DOESN'T draft Allen, I totes would put down mad loot on that ish. It's not happening dude, cheeeeyilll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Yeah there no comparison with Allen and Mahomes totally different situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said: what if McCloughan leaked his thoughts as a means for deception? Think he made the comment before he was on board, so unless he knew he had the gig.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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