Livewire Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfollett Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 One thing I know for sure about the NFL draft, injury concerns kill your draft status. If Mayock said it, you know several teams have it as a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 This was addressed a while ago. The Combine medical gave him a passing grade with no concerns (4 out of 5). The report concludes that it was a "Stinger" and no significant damage was done. Perhaps some teams won't go by the positive medical report but I think most teams will have faith in it. Read for yourself... http://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/04/16/way-we-hear-it-combine-medical-report-disputes-leighton-vander-esch-concerns/a45fktj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers22 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Man, I am hoping he gets selected before our pick. He is just so unimpressive to me when I watch him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfollett Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, Chieferific said: This was addressed a while ago. The Combine medical gave him a passing grade with no concerns (4 out of 5). The report concludes that it was a "Stinger" and no significant damage was done. Perhaps some teams won't go by the positive medical report but I think most teams will have faith in it. Read for yourself... http://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/04/16/way-we-hear-it-combine-medical-report-disputes-leighton-vander-esch-concerns/a45fktj/ I am not a draft expert. However, two "journalist" / "analyst" types, who are very well connected, have indicated a cervical issue. Regardless of the combine report, the issue is out there, and I think teams will take notice. Again, it could be all smoke by one team that wants him to fall. As for the combine, I thought each team's doctor poked and prodded players during the medicals -- not just one. Maybe they don't do that anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, cjfollett said: I am not a draft expert. However, two "journalist" / "analyst" types, who are very well connected, have indicated a cervical issue. Regardless of the combine report, the issue is out there, and I think teams will take notice. Again, it could be all smoke by one team that wants him to fall. As for the combine, I thought each team's doctor poked and prodded players during the medicals -- not just one. Maybe they don't do that anymore? Are you suggesting teams are going to put more stock into what Mike Mayock says and what Walter Football reported then what trained Doctors who performed medical tests on the injured area concluded? Tests that conclusively showed it was a pinched nerve in the cervical area. An injury that is common and was cleared up by a chiropractor that adjusted him and relieved the pain? I know which way I'd lean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfollett Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chieferific said: Are you suggesting teams are going to put more stock into what Mike Mayock says and what Walter Football reported then what trained Doctors who performed medical tests on the injured area concluded? Tests that conclusively showed it was a pinched nerve in the cervical area. An injury that is common and was cleared up by a chiropractor that adjusted him and relieved the pain? I know which way I'd lean. Not at all. What I am simply stating is that Mayock, King, and others are hearing from teams about this issue and reporting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Chieferific said: Are you suggesting teams are going to put more stock into what Mike Mayock says and what Walter Football reported then what trained Doctors who performed medical tests on the injured area concluded? Tests that conclusively showed it was a pinched nerve in the cervical area. An injury that is common and was cleared up by a chiropractor that adjusted him and relieved the pain? I know which way I'd lean. That doesn't mean that teams can't have differing opinions than the NFL doctors and think it could be a degenerative issue. And that Mayock and other are hearing teams say they have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Teams can have different opinions but Charlie Casserly is fed info from a team. Same as Maylock. Most rumors are smoke screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 hours ago, warfelg said: That doesn't mean that teams can't have differing opinions than the NFL doctors and think it could be a degenerative issue. And that Mayock and other are hearing teams say they have an issue. What I'm saying is whatever "info" they're getting from teams isn't supported by what Doctors have concluded. What GM is going to think he has more medical knowledge then a Doctor? It was a common "Stinger" and there isn't any reason to think it will become an issue moving forward. Sure maybe there is an overly cautious team out there. The OP asked if this report was going to hurt his status. The link provided tells me no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I've been torn on which one I prefer. Went back and watched the bowl games again. Give me Vander Esch. He's such a big, physical specimen with long meat hooks. I was concerned that he wasn't as aggressive as Evans, but I don't think that's a problem after re-watching. Evans is pretty special going N/S, going E/W, not as much imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armsteeld2 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, JLambert58 said: I've been torn on which one I prefer. Went back and watched the bowl games again. Give me Vander Esch. He's such a big, physical specimen with long meat hooks. I was concerned that he wasn't as aggressive as Evans, but I don't think that's a problem after re-watching. Evans is pretty special going N/S, going E/W, not as much imo. Remember that Evans played 34!ILB so he had more bodies to navigate through. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Armsteeld2 said: Remember that Evans played 34!ILB so he had more bodies to navigate through. Just saying. Good point! But he also had a lot of talented guys sharing the work. LVE was the show in Boise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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