footbull3196 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I have them at #16, behind the 1994 49ers and ahead of the 1999 Rams. If you want to see my top 20 list, here it is btw 1. 1985 Chicago Bears (15-1) 2. 1972 Miami Dolphins (14-0) 3. 1984 San Francisco 49ers (15-1) 4. 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers (14-2) 5. 1989 San Francisco 49ers (14-2) 6. 1991 Washington Redskins (14-2) 7. 2007 New England Patriots (16-0) 8. 1976 Oakland Raiders (13-1) 9. 1966 Green Bay Packers (12-2) 10. 2004 New England Patriots (14-2) 11. 1992 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) 12. 1996 Green Bay Packers (13-3) 13. 1975 Pittsburgh Steelers (12-2) 14. 1998 Denver Broncos (14-2) 15. 1994 San Francisco 49ers (13-3) 16. 2013 Seattle Seahawks (13-3) 17. 1999 St. Louis Rams (13-3) 18. 1986 New York Giants (14-2) 19. 1973 Miami Dolphins (12-2) 20. 1968 Baltimore Colts (13-1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 you voted for top fifteen but i feel sixteen is very clearly outside of the top fifteen but idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Shady Slim said: you voted for top fifteen but i feel sixteen is very clearly outside of the top fifteen but idk Wow I suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 6 hours ago, footbull3196 said: 7. 2007 New England Patriots (16-0) I know they lost the Super Bowl, but the '07 Patriots should be higher than No. 7. Their point differential was +315. Last season, the Patriots and Eagles had the best point differentials in football, at +162. The '85 Bears' point differential was +258 - 57 worse than the 2007 New England Patriots. If Bill James has anything to say about it with pythagorean expectation and whatnot, the Patriots have a much better claim for No. 1 than some of the teams they are ranked behind. They averaged a +19.6875 point differential in every regular season game, and they could only lose because of a miraculous play. 7 is too low for that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 hours ago, AlNFL19 said: I know they lost the Super Bowl, but the '07 Patriots should be higher than No. 7. Their point differential was +315. Last season, the Patriots and Eagles had the best point differentials in football, at +162 It's all for naught, they didn't win the Super Bowl, I wouldn't put them this high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Danger said: It's all for naught, they didn't win the Super Bowl, I wouldn't put them this high. If Tyree doesn't make that catch, they're the undisputed No. 1 team of all time. So just because he did they should be lower than 7? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me - how can one great play by the other team make the '07 Patriots that much worse to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, AlNFL19 said: If Tyree doesn't make that catch, they're the undisputed No. 1 team of all time. So just because he did they should be lower than 7? There's no prize for 2nd place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Danger said: There's no prize for 2nd place. This doesn't really prove anything, but yeah there is. There are conference championship trophies and banners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, AlNFL19 said: If Tyree doesn't make that catch, they're the undisputed No. 1 team of all time. So just because he did they should be lower than 7? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me - how can one great play by the other team make the '07 Patriots that much worse to you? The Bears were plus 86 in the playoffs and the Patriots were plus 17. One dominated in the regular season and were just okay in the post season the other dominated in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 The 85 Bears and 72 Dolphins are the most overrated teams of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, AlNFL19 said: This doesn't really prove anything, but yeah there is. There are conference championship trophies and banners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Either you think the team would beat the other teams or you don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 how did the 85 bears only make it to one SB ..were they also one of the youngest teams that yr too? I think I read that somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, August4th said: how did the 85 bears only make it to one SB ..were they also one of the youngest teams that yr too? I think I read that somewhere McMahon got hurt I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, lancerman said: McMahon got hurt I believe Yeah he was 18-3 as the Bears starter over the next 3 years (23TD 23INT) but he missed a lot of time and Payton retired. The defense was even better in 1986 and they were 14-2 but they blew it in the playoffs so no one cares, which is also why the 2007 Patriots take a bit of a hit. A 15-1 SB winning 2007 Patriot team would be remembered more highly than the 16-0 team. Even though being 16-0 is a great achievement and will make you one of the best regular season teams of all time if you don't back that up in the playoffs you would expect them to take a hit in the all-time rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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