oakdb36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dessie said: We have 34 players earning $2.5m or less on our roster. If the salary cap is $177m then the average is $3.33m per player. You can get lots of players for less than $2.5m a year. We have spent over $18m on Gilchrist, Whitehead, Giacomini, R.Nelson, Derrick Johnson and Doug Martin, think we could have got by without some of them. What average are you talking about? 177 - 25 - 23.5 = 128.5/51 = 2.52M Of course you can get players for less than 2.5M/Y, the idea is to be able to afford more than journeymen and back ups to surround your 2 superstars with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: What average are you talking about? 177 - 25 - 23.5 = 128.5/51 = 2.52M Of course you can get players for less than 2.5M/Y, the idea is to be able to afford more than journeymen and back ups to surround your 2 superstars with. $177m / 53 = $3.33m . It’s nothing new to have to fill your roster with cheaper players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Doesn't matter who those draft picks are, they will undoubtably be on the same level as Mack. And if this draft was any indication. Taking a raw, underwhelming LT over a sure fire blue chip player, as yourself.... are you really excited about the draft picks? Doesn't matter that we traded Mack if you think we will draft poorly. With or without Mack, we won't win if we don't draft well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, dante9876 said: "But that’s the crux of this situation. Let me explain. Mack, over the next seven years, is scheduled to make $154.85 million on his new Bears contract. The salary cap this year is $177.2 million. Over the last five years, the cap has risen about $10 million a year. So let’s project that it continues to rise $10 million a year through the last year of the Mack deal, in 2024. The cap, then, would be $237.2 million in the last year of Mack’s deal. Average salary cap per team over the next seven years, by my estimate: $207.2 million. Mack’s average compensation over the next seven years: $22.12 million. Average cap spending devoted to Mack annually: 10.67 percent." https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/03/khalil-mack-trade-super-bowl-prediction-peter-king/ TV viewership has been down for two years in a row, that means the next TV contract will be smaller which means a smaller salary cap not bigger. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/11/14/the-nfls-three-most-important-money-indicators-are-pointing-down/#4064a4b44e22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 ^^And the current CBA ends in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby81 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Yea Peter King made some assumptions in that article that are far from certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: 34 minutes ago, Dessie said: We have 34 players earning $2.5m or less on our roster. If the salary cap is $177m then the average is $3.33m per player. You can get lots of players for less than $2.5m a year. We have spent over $18m on Gilchrist, Whitehead, Giacomini, R.Nelson, Derrick Johnson and Doug Martin, think we could have got by without some of them. What average are you talking about? 177 - 25 - 23.5 = 128.5/51 = 2.52M Of course you can get players for less than 2.5M/Y, the idea is to be able to afford more than journeymen and back ups to surround your 2 superstars with. But Mack was only scheduled to count $13.8m against the cap this year and I believe he will even after the trade at the Bears with the extension kicking in next year - when the cap will go up by around $10m and we'd be able to possibly remove contracts like Nelson, Lynch, Ellis, Penn, Johnson to counter the increase.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chwf3rd25 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 hours ago, billking said: Maybe someone can explain this in a way that makes complete sense but why does the current cba not have any provisions to help a franchise keep draft picks, it now appears that if Mack were a good only player the Raiders could still keep him instead of a top defensive talent, teams should not be forced to let go of drafted talent The CBA does, the franchise tag. It’s MUCH easier for NFL teams to keep star players than any other sport. That’s why so few homegrown stars ever switch teams. We were just too stupid/impatient to actually assert our leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Darbsk said: But Mack was only scheduled to count $13.8m against the cap this year and I believe he will even after the trade at the Bears with the extension kicking in next year - when the cap will go up by around $10m and we'd be able to possibly remove contracts like Nelson, Lynch, Ellis, Penn, Johnson to counter the increase.......... How do we replace them? We get players on minimum salaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chwf3rd25 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: How do we replace them? We get players on minimum salaries? You actually draft reasonably well and take advantage of rookie contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: How do we replace them? We get players on minimum salaries? Lynch, Penn, and Johnson are probably gone after this year regardless. We're going to have to draft well and find vets on decent contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chwf3rd25 said: You actually draft reasonably well and take advantage of rookie contracts Sure but it will take more than one draft to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Lynch, Penn, and Johnson are probably gone after this year regardless. We're going to have to draft well and find vets on decent contracts. Yes but now we have more picks and cap room to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Darbsk said: But Mack was only scheduled to count $13.8m against the cap this year and I believe he will even after the trade at the Bears with the extension kicking in next year - when the cap will go up by around $10m and we'd be able to possibly remove contracts like Nelson, Lynch, Ellis, Penn, Johnson to counter the increase.......... Add KO, Irvin and Cook to that list as they have no guaranteed money left. Wouldnt be easy but it’s doable and I believe Reggie had things in place to make it happen. Gruden coming in and spending money on vets like Giacomini, Martin, DJ, Nelson, Rucker, Gilchrist etc put paid to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: 9 minutes ago, Darbsk said: But Mack was only scheduled to count $13.8m against the cap this year and I believe he will even after the trade at the Bears with the extension kicking in next year - when the cap will go up by around $10m and we'd be able to possibly remove contracts like Nelson, Lynch, Ellis, Penn, Johnson to counter the increase.......... How do we replace them? We get players on minimum salaries? Seriously? Ellis' replacement is on roster in the shape of Hall/Vanderdoes - limited run stuffing DTs are pretty cost effective. We are hoping Penn will be replaced by Miller and we can sign a journeyman RT as we normally seem to do, Johnson could be replaced and may be this year by Lee, Roberts could be replaced by a cheaper FA WR or a guy like Switzer, Lynch could be replaced by a draft pick or a relatively cheap FA or we may have a replacement in Warren and of course Nelson and his production could be replaced by you or I There really is plenty of room for manoeuvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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