DWhitehurst Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Just sounds like some spurned Raider fans refusing to believe their team is stupid for not taking care of their best talent. Equally as sad of journalism as making up Mack rumors lol. Well, I know a taxi cab driver in Detroit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Yes, cap hell was a thing until the new CBA, now that rookies have a pay scale there is no cap hell. The Vikings got Kirk Cousins and paid for an OL last year, and got Richardson and still re-signed Diggs and Hunter. The Rams will have Donald done soon, have money for Goff re-signed their OL, Cooks and Gurley, had room for Peters on the 5th year option and signed Suh. Everyone understands the cap too much to put their team there. I have no doubts at all if this team brought in Mack that we would stay totally healthy in cap. May it cost us some 30+ vets? Sure, but that's a normal process for us anyway. The CBA really didn't help... yes it made rookies contract cheaper, but the money saved just went straight to the veterans. It's the TV marketing deals which happened around the same time which is bringing in a huge new cash flow different. Some teams saved up money and spending it doesn't prove anything... especially when that same example has a one year contract (Richardson, not long term) and the Vikings reportedly don't have the cash they want to resign LB Barr. So your own example of not being a cap problem, has a cap problem. I haven't looked at the Rams but after Jeff Fisher destroyed their offense and they had no one to spend money on offensively, I would think they should of had a good bit of money saved up and again, siting one year deal like Suh. Packers got Wilkerson for that matter... those contracts really don't effect the cap that much and shouldn't be cited for long term cap winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 47 minutes ago, Beast said: Sorry venting here... but I can't figure out for the life of me why people keep suggesting we can save a 1st round pick by trading the Raiders Cobb or Matthews instead? ... since when are their contracts worth 1st round picks after fans keep complaining their over paid. The Raiders don't want their own more talented over payed players so they'll gladly take ours? I just makes no sense to me. You give me a 1st for Cobb or Matthews, I might quickly take it... they're not worth a 1st round draft pick. I completely agree. I mean the Raiders clearly think his asking price is too high. If you trade two 1st round picks and get that huge cap number.... either You have a ton of cap space saved up Or you're putting yourself into cap hell in 3 or 4 years from now... which will require you to not resign guys OR not signed FAs... and basically you'll be rebuilding to a degree. This might be alright if you win a Super Bowl in the next two or three years, but you'll gonna feel a lot of hurt if you don't. "Gruden loves old ****ty players" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, Herbie_Hancock said: SIGN JUSTIN GRIFFITH SIGN RANDY MOSS TRADE FOR STEVEN JACKSON BRING BACK BRETT I feel like those topics are the most important the last 10 years on here haha JUSTIN GRIFFITH LOLOL WHYYYYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie_Hancock Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Norm said: JUSTIN GRIFFITH LOLOL WHYYYYY Do you remember that one? We were sooooo pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 48 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I feel like the new fan trend for signing big name players for any team is to sit back and say "they'll be in cap hell." Yet not a single team in the NFL is in cap hell. My bold claim, whoever signs Mack will be fine 3-4 years from now, because there are people paid a lot of money who understand it way more than we do. "You can't get in trouble with the cap" -Ray (and 12 year olds who only know Madden) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Beast said: The CBA really didn't help... yes it made rookies contract cheaper, but the money saved just went straight to the veterans. It's the TV marketing deals which happened around the same time which is bringing in a huge new cash flow different. Some teams saved up money and spending it doesn't prove anything... especially when that same example has a one year contract (Richardson, not long term) and the Vikings reportedly don't have the cash they want to resign LB Barr. So your own example of not being a cap problem, has a cap problem. I haven't looked at the Rams but after Jeff Fisher destroyed their offense and they had no one to spend money on offensively, I would think they should of had a good bit of money saved up and again, siting one year deal like Suh. Packers got Wilkerson for that matter... those contracts really don't effect the cap that much and shouldn't be cited for long term cap winners. The Cap isn't real. Sign whoever you want.. You'll never lose anyone you want.. You can just get even more free agents. The people that do this know secret ways to embezzle. We could sign 5 Mack's if we wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Herbie_Hancock said: Do you remember that one? We were sooooo pissed Lol no. That's amazing. I remember we were supposedly signing Peyton hillis once and people got hyped move on from Kuhn for him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Didn't S.F have cap issues post Harbaugh ? It's not as publicized as the Redskins in the early days, but it still happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I remember Arrigo got us all hyped on Adalius Thomas signing with the Packers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, cannondale said: Didn't S.F have cap issues post Harbaugh ? It's not as publicized as the Redskins in the early days, but it still happens Denver lost some stuff but they got a ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Whew, 100 plus pages and it's official we won't trade for Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 150 pages by Friday at this rate. Another 200 after he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 If you look at positional spending at OverTheCap - The Packers are spending $ 103. 9 Million on the offense and only $ 74.1 Million on the Defense in 2018 In 2019, its shifts to $ 98 million on offense and only $ 54 million on the defense. ( I don't know if Rodgers' deal is loaded in these positional numbers, it is loaded on the Packers page) https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: If you look at positional spending at OverTheCap - The Packers are spending $ 103. 9 Million on the offense and only $ 74.1 Million on the Defense in 2018 In 2019, its shifts to $ 98 million on offense and only $ 54 million on the defense. ( I don't know if Rodgers' deal is loaded in these positional numbers, it is loaded on the Packers page) https://overthecap.com/positional-spending/ And things can swing quickly. Daniels and Clark won't be cheap. Probably 30m total between the two....minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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