Incarcerated_Scarface Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If they can get one ring out of this team all that money is worth it. I still think theyre gonna fall hard once their cap hits start coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Donald got his loot. Very nice. Mack next. Let's get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I hope he absolutely lays down this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 hours ago, BayRaider said: In a twist no one saw coming, Raiders trade Mack to Rams for Donald. Gonna have to add a sweetener. Donald is more valuable than Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Gonna have to add a sweetener. Donald is more valuable than Mack. You'll take Seth Roberts and you'll like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: You'll take Seth Roberts and you'll like it. We don't need a kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, jrry32 said: Gonna have to add a sweetener. Donald is more valuable than Mack. He's not, Edge rushers>Interior defenders. Glad Donald got paid, dude is a beast of a player but every defender that gets QB money is getting too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, DingoLadd said: He's not, Edge rushers>Interior defenders. Glad Donald got paid, dude is a beast of a player but every defender that gets QB money is getting too much. That's just not true. Interior pressure is much more disruptive to an offense and the QB than edge pressure. It's also harder to run plays away from an interior defender. Bengals fans can attest - you take Carl Lawson or Carlos Dunlap away from the team and it hurts. You take Geno Atkins and you have to reformat the whole defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 OBJ should fire his agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I <3 Faulk Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: Dead cap of 50 million? Man... I guess we can't cut him anytime soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellChippy Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, theJ said: That's just not true. Interior pressure is much more disruptive to an offense and the QB than edge pressure. It's also harder to run plays away from an interior defender. Bengals fans can attest - you take Carl Lawson or Carlos Dunlap away from the team and it hurts. You take Geno Atkins and you have to reformat the whole defense. Edit: tried and failed post a pic showing that on edge rushers get to the quarterback faster and give up less expected pts than interior rushers. Atkins is clearly more important to the Bengals than Dunlap.To prove your point, you would need to compare an edge rusher and interior guy of equal skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I fully expected Donald to become a 21 million per defender. What's an extra million a year at that point. The only thing that scares me is the amount guaranteed. That is a ton of guaranteed money for a guy who has 300 pound men falling around his knees on every play. And I have absolutely no doubt that the guaranteed amount was the sticking point in the negotiations. But Donald kinda had all the chips at the table. Hope this works out. I am thrilled. But I might also be a little nauseous during every defensive snap. What a freakin off season for my team. I mean, damn... that's one for the books. Let's hope what we have on paper carries over onto the field. LETS GO RAMS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, KellChippy said: Edit: tried and failed post a pic showing that on edge rushers get to the quarterback faster and give up less expected pts than interior rushers. Atkins is clearly more important to the Bengals than Dunlap.To prove your point, you would need to compare an edge rusher and interior guy of equal skill. But it isn't just about getting to the QB. It's also about disrupting the play, throwing off timing, and forcing QBs into mistakes. It's like any other position. You have your marquee stats. But the position is always about more than that. Like a QB is about more than passing yards and TDs. A cornerback is about more than interceptions. You know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Non-Issue said: But it isn't just about getting to the QB. It's also about disrupting the play, throwing off timing, and forcing QBs into mistakes. It's like any other position. You have your marquee stats. But the position is always about more than that. Like a QB is about more than passing yards and TDs. A cornerback is about more than interceptions. You know? Agreed. I wouldn't disagree at all that edge rushers can get there faster. I don't know how you can possibly calculate an expected pts per position honestly, so i can't comment there. Where a great rushing DT helps is pushing the pocket and disrupting the QB's timing, getting his passing lanes, and also blowing up running lanes. A lot of the time this type of pressure will lead to sacks from the edge. If the QB can't step up because the DT is penetrating, then the edge rusher has a better angle and better chance to disrupt the play. These are things edge rushers typically can't do. It's a fascinating conversation. Because there's some hidden X/O's here that go beyond the traditional stats of sacks and pressures. @KellChippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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