MacReady Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, seminoles1 said: Achievement in Popular Film? Seems like a cop out for popular movies not being nominated for Best Picture so they can continue to nominate movies no one has heard of before. It's because The Shape of Water won. The Academy has long had a pure, unadulterated hatred for horror, science fiction and fantasy. This is their way of trying to get an audience while not giving a **** about the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 What would the criteria be for such an award? Is it open to directors, actors, entire movies, or all three at once? What qualifies for achievement in a popular film as opposed to, you know, actual achievement? This is not going to go over well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 instead of saying popular they should of said "genre".. I think that's what they are going for so if it was this yr(going with films already released with critical acclaim).. Mission impossible, Black Panther, infinity war and a Quiet Place would be the noms.. saw a tweet that said the 1st Oscars was somewhat like this.. had one major award for artsy stuff and another for "epic" films.. they scratched that after one year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 The Academy desperately trying to stay relevant amongst dwindling ratings and completely whiffing is not much of a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Achievement in Popular Film? Seems like a cop out for popular movies not being nominated for Best Picture so they can continue to nominate movies no one has heard of before. Leave that mess to MTV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Is Best Picture going to be re-titled as Best Unpopular Picture? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 12 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Is Best Picture going to be re-titled as Best Unpopular Picture? Best Hellboy Prequel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I just hate how every Academy Award winner for best picture takes two years before nobody even remembers it. They have got to be the WORST bunch of voters in any voting situation ever. Slumdog Millionaire, The Hurt Locker, The King's Speech, The Artist, Argo, 12 Years a Slave, Birdman, Spotlight, Moonlight, The Shape of Water. Every single one of those movies was simply a tearjerker type movie that invoked a strong emotional response and was overrated because of that emotional response, or they were about filmmaking. Not one of them is going to be remembered as a classic, iconic or probably even great movie ten years from now. Some of them were good movies I won't deny that, but none of them were great movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: I just hate how every Academy Award winner for best picture takes two years before nobody even remembers it. They have got to be the WORST bunch of voters in any voting situation ever. Slumdog Millionaire, The Hurt Locker, The King's Speech, The Artist, Argo, 12 Years a Slave, Birdman, Spotlight, Moonlight, The Shape of Water. Every single one of those movies was simply a tearjerker type movie that invoked a strong emotional response and was overrated because of that emotional response, or they were about filmmaking. Not one of them is going to be remembered as a classic, iconic or probably even great movie ten years from now. Some of them were good movies I won't deny that, but none of them were great movies. Sidebar: I love Slumdog Millionaire Okay, now to my sarcastic post: It's a good thing those movies won instead of movies that people actually remember. The Academy Awards aren't supposed to recognize movies that will have a lasting legacy beyond 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, seminoles1 said: Academy Awards aren't supposed to recognize movies that will have a lasting legacy beyond 6 months. Wut? I'm not saying the most memorable movie should win. I'm saying that greatness stands the test of time, and none of those movies will stand the test of time. They were all a flash in the pan. Just like Crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Outpost31 said: Wut? I'm not saying the most memorable movie should win. I'm saying that greatness stands the test of time, and none of those movies will stand the test of time. They were all a flash in the pan. Just like Crash. Agreed. Like Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan with the latter being a movie I would stay is still remembered. King's Speech over Inception. I'd argue the last "test of time" movie to win is No Country for Old Men (or the Departed year before that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Outpost31 said: Wut? I'm not saying the most memorable movie should win. I'm saying that greatness stands the test of time, and none of those movies will stand the test of time. They were all a flash in the pan. Just like Crash. I was being sarcastic. I literally stated it was a sarcastic post. Edited August 9, 2018 by seminoles1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: I was being sarcastic. I literally stated it was a sarcastic post. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) how did crash win best picture? couldn't finish it on re-watch ..its the kind of film that should get a 40% rating on RT lol I think Moonlight will have a lasting legacy... Edited August 9, 2018 by August4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 17 hours ago, August4th said: how did crash win best picture? couldn't finish it on re-watch ..its the kind of film that should get a 40% rating on RT lol I think Moonlight will have a lasting legacy... Nobody even remembers Moonlight a year after it won. All of these movies follow the same path. Emotional/melodramatic stories that tug at heartstrings and pretend to be more important or poignant than they are. They catch audiences by surprise, and then they fade into anonymity or a joke once people realize what happened to them. Spotlight is hardly even a good movie. What in the hell did it do special? Nothing. Nothing whatsoever. And Moonlight. What did it do? What was special about it? It was its subject matter that won the award. That's literally it. Same as half the movies that have won the award. The Academy tries to pick the most socially conscious movie and all that crap. Even The Shape of Water. Won IMMEDIATELY following the whole Me Too movement thing. It's a man-hating movie in disguise as a monster movie. Both The Shape of Water and Moonlight are at a 7.4 on IMDB. Those scores are going to continue to fall once people realize they got caught up in the moment and let tearjerkers get to them. The Acadmey doesn't give a **** about actual achievement in filmmaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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