Todd Gurley

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4 hours ago, showtime said:

Gurley doesn't have the elite break away speed that Peterson had at that size, but other than that, Gurley is probably better than him right now in every other phase of the game. 

Nah. Peterson was a much more violent, sudden runner. He was a legit powerback that could break your ankles on a dime. Gurley has the clear edge in receiving and pass blocking, both of which are more prevalent in today’s game. 

3 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said:

Definitely Gurley over Peterson. Peterson is a liability most plays, unable to block or catch, and he was fumble prone.

Is a liability or was a liability? If you’re saying he was a liability, you’re dead wrong. If you’re talking today, you’re less wrong.

Peterson was more fumble prone that you’d have liked, sure. And he wasn’t a prolific receiver, nor an incredible blocker - two reasons why he had a harder time finding a job than a guy like Frank Gore. But to say he was a liability? An all time great RB was a liability? What a joke. 

3 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said:

Gurley is more productive per season,

So you’re going to count Peterson’s seasons at the end of his career...why not compare their first sets of games?

Todd Gurley in first 51 games : 3,982 rushing yards, 40 rush TDs, 4.3 YPC, 153 catches, 1,573 receiving yards, and 9 receiving TDs.

Adrian Peterson in his first 46 games: 4,484 rushing yards, 40 rush TDs, 4.9 YPC, 83 catches, 829 receiving yards, 1 receiving TD.

So sure, in a passing league, Gurley has more passing statistics, but is not the same runner (statistically).

3 hours ago, patriotsheatyan said:

has contributed to more good offenses in the last two years than Peterson has in his career. Peterson is a loser player good for only fantasy football and more or less useless in the modern game, a major part of why he has only been on one good offense in his career.

So he wasn’t the one to drag the Vikings to the playoffs in 08? Or the sorry team in 12? He didn’t win MVP while rushing for 2k yards? 

Peterson never really had a good coach. He had a good QB once. He had a good o-line early in his career, but nothing really to write home about from 2010 on. He’s as much a loser as Barry Sanders, LT, or Eric Dickerson.

Yeah, your post is garbage.

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45 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said:

Nah. Peterson was a much more violent, sudden runner. He was a legit powerback that could break your ankles on a dime. Gurley has the clear edge in receiving and pass blocking, both of which are more prevalent in today’s game. 

Is a liability or was a liability? If you’re saying he was a liability, you’re dead wrong. If you’re talking today, you’re less wrong.

Peterson was more fumble prone that you’d have liked, sure. And he wasn’t a prolific receiver, nor an incredible blocker - two reasons why he had a harder time finding a job than a guy like Frank Gore. But to say he was a liability? An all time great RB was a liability? What a joke. 

So you’re going to count Peterson’s seasons at the end of his career...why not compare their first sets of games?

Todd Gurley in first 51 games : 3,982 rushing yards, 40 rush TDs, 4.3 YPC, 153 catches, 1,573 receiving yards, and 9 receiving TDs.

Adrian Peterson in his first 46 games: 4,484 rushing yards, 40 rush TDs, 4.9 YPC, 83 catches, 829 receiving yards, 1 receiving TD.

So sure, in a passing league, Gurley has more passing statistics, but is not the same runner (statistically).

So he wasn’t the one to drag the Vikings to the playoffs in 08? Or the sorry team in 12? He didn’t win MVP while rushing for 2k yards? 

Peterson never really had a good coach. He had a good QB once. He had a good o-line early in his career, but nothing really to write home about from 2010 on. He’s as much a loser as Barry Sanders, LT, or Eric Dickerson.

Yeah, your post is garbage.

Let's not forget Gurley also had the privilege of playing in Jeff Fisher's offenses.

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12 minutes ago, DigInBoys said:

Let's not forget Gurley also had the privilege of playing in Jeff Fisher's offenses.

Peterson was not a part of a great offense like the Rams either, the Vikes have never been a head of the curve, the Rams are the trent setter in the NFL> 

Peterson plasy with more power, agaility and speed than Gurley. Gurley is like a power Marshall Faulk. 

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Gurley's a savage.  I could see him surpassing Peterson on his current career-trajectory, but it's way too early to say now.  Peterson at his peak had the best burst I've ever seen from a RB.  One of the reasons why he's still been successful this year despite being stripped of his top speed.

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2 hours ago, jrry32 said:

Obviously, we'll never know, but I think Gurley could have run around a 4.40. Why?

https://www.si.com/2015/05/26/todd-gurley-2015-nfl-draft-st-louis-rams

The other reason: NFL teams saw Gurley as the best back to come into the draft since Adrian Peterson was picked seventh overall in 2007. The comparison is interesting. Peterson is 6-1 and 218; Gurley is 6-1 and 222. Peterson’s official 40 time is 4.40; Gurley’s estimated 40 time is 4.40. Peterson has reportedly run a 40-yard dash in 4.24 seconds, and Gurley, who ran the 110-meter hurdles at the World Junior Championship in 2011, has been recorded below 4.3 in the 40 too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/sports/football/nfl-speed-leonard-fournette.html

Other top speeds on offense: Todd Gurley, Rams (21.98 m.p.h.); Fournette, again (21.76); Marquise Goodwin, 49ers (21.68); and Tyreek Hill, Chiefs (21.64).

You may be right, as on the field and track speed are different. On the field, his burst is extremely fast at high end, which you corroborated. I just don't know if he has it in the first 10 yards the way AP does. Perhaps it's his stride though. You only notice the speed once he starts gliding by guys at the second level.

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Gurley stats are next level and he has a HOF skillset, but AP/AD in his prime to me is the GOAT. I'm biased because I didn't watch football as much when Barry Sanders played (in my 20s now), but I've never seen a guy with explosion and violent cutting ability like Peterson. What a wonder that guy was to watch.

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5 hours ago, DigInBoys said:

Let's not forget Gurley also had the privilege of playing in Jeff Fisher's offenses.

Yes, he did. And Peterson got the powerhouses Brad Childress/Leslie Frazier at HC, and Darrell Bevell/Bill Musgrave at OC. Never really got his McVay, which is unfortunate. 

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5 hours ago, DigInBoys said:

Let's not forget Gurley also had the privilege of playing in Jeff Fisher's offenses.

Yes, he did. And Peterson got the powerhouses Brad Childress/Leslie Frazier at HC, and Darrell Bevell/Bill Musgrave at OC. Never really got his McVay, which is unfortunate. 

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5 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said:

You may be right, as on the field and track speed are different. On the field, his burst is extremely fast at high end, which you corroborated. I just don't know if he has it in the first 10 yards the way AP does. Perhaps it's his stride though. You only notice the speed once he starts gliding by guys at the second level.

He doesn't. He's more of a sprinter. If he gets a runway, he can fly, but he doesn't accelerate like Peterson did. He accelerates extremely well for a back his size, though.

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He's in contention for Tomlinson's TD record and the guy gives up an easy touchdown at the end of the game because he has supreme class.  What a man.

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42 minutes ago, showtime said:

He's in contention for Tomlinson's disputed TD record and the guy gives up an easy touchdown at the end of the game because he has supreme class.  What a man.

Gurley is classy and uber-talented and worthy of a top 10 pick -  but the TD record is meaningless when applied across 12, 14 and 16 game seasons.
Fans today will whine like a stuck pig when the NFL goes to an 18 game season... and all of the current season-records are smashed.

That's why a  "season" is a lousy unit of measure for NFL records  

[VigilantZombie]

 if you believe that the running back you are drafting is as good as Todd Gurley then yes but but Todd Gurley as a player doesn't justify spending top 10 pick on just any running back simply because you need one.