JBURGE Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, rcon14 said: 1 minute ago, JBURGE said: Top 3 in what, the division? Aaron Jones was the most efficient RB in the NFL last year on a per touch basis. That's fine, but are we really going to call him a top 3 RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, JBURGE said: That's fine, but are we really going to call him a top 3 RB? I mean, I would. I want efficiency from my runningbacks and he has it. He also is a weapon in the passing game. If you watch his tape from UTEP, he was running a large route tree and was something that was malpractice from McCarthy not to utilize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, rcon14 said: I mean, I would. I want efficiency from my runningbacks and he has it. He also is a weapon in the passing game. If you watch his tape from UTEP, he was running a large route tree and was something that was malpractice from McCarthy not to utilize. I feel like consist production is probably above that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, rcon14 said: Aaron Jones was the most efficient RB in the NFL last year on a per touch basis and was the 2nd most efficient his rookie year. Yes! An Aaron Jones guy. Man, we could have used you last season when this forum was having a blowup over Aaron Jones v. Jamaal Williams and touches. 3 minutes ago, JBURGE said: I would rather take a WR on day 3 than pay Duke Johnson to play WR. Yea, but Rodgers loves to throw to RBs who can catch the ball..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, Norm said: I feel like consist production is probably above that. The only knock you can have on Jones is the MCL sprains. Which is a totally valid point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, Leader said: CHTV: Free agent safety Earl Thomas said last week that he wants to be the NFL's highest-paid at his position. The Packers, as it turns out, need a safety. Or two. And as we've learned, counting solely on young players in those roles is not an ideal recipe. Some hear "highest paid" and cringe. Last year, when Aaron Rodgers signed his current extension, many fans who are staunch supporters of Rodgers and the Packers weren't thrilled with the money that was thrown around. It's important to be financially prudent, as Russ Ball has been for many years. But there's also a time to strike when the opportunity allows for it. With Seattle, Thomas was the fifth-highest paid safety in the league, both in overall contract value and average per year. His deal was worth $40 million and averaged $10 million per season. Even at those numbers, Thomas's teammate Kam Chancellor came in with a contract worth $12 million per year ($38 million total). Would it be possible to structure his contract with huge incentives going to the amount of games he plays in to help offset the risk? I'm assuming he and his agent would balk at that. LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, thrILL! said: Would it be possible to structure his contract with huge incentives going to the amount of games he plays in to help offset the risk? I'm assuming he and his agent would balk at that. LoL Could you? Yeah. Would he accept it? No. A guy with his recent injury history should be targeting as much GTD money as he can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, rcon14 said: The only knock you can have on Jones is the MCL sprains. Which is a totally valid point. I love Aaron Jones, I just don't think I can call him anywhere close to a top 3 back right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Yes! An Aaron Jones guy. Man, we could have used you last season when this forum was having a blowup over Aaron Jones v. Jamaal Williams and touches. Yea, but Rodgers loves to throw to RBs who can catch the ball..... We'd better invest in another RB that can get (or contribute) field time next year. If MLF is thinking to push the running game (fine with me) - we'll need insurance against Jone's knees and the potential / likelihood he'll (again) lose some time to injury. Cheaper and less experienced is how you build depth and roster balance - but I'd like to have somebody behind Williams that isnt just a cheap / inexperienced body. Add on: Perhaps we have somebody on the PS thats ready to rotate up. Cant say. Edited March 4, 2019 by Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, JBURGE said: I love Aaron Jones, I just don't think I can call him anywhere close to a top 3 back right now That's fine. Valuing runningbacks is difficult because it's hard to attribute production to them vs their O-line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, Leader said: We'd better invest in another RB that can get (or contribute) field time next year. If MLF is thinking to push the running game (fine with me) - we'll need insurance against Jone's knees and the potential / likelihood he'll (again) lose some time to injury. Cheaper and less experienced is how you build depth and roster balance - but I'd like to have somebody beind Williams that isnt just a cheap / inexperienced body. how much are you gonna spend on RB3? How much better do you think (insert vet here) is going to be than random day 3 RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, rcon14 said: how much are you gonna spend on RB3? How much better do you think (insert vet here) is going to be than random day 3 RB? Well - that depends (again) on how heavy MLF decides to go with the run game. If its considerably more than this year - which is what its sounding like - then I dont think AJ can be counted on to go the distance as the bell cow. He's good and all that - but so far he's proven injury prone. Williams rotates up and splits time with whomever is brought in. A veteran RB wouldnt have to go thru the learning curves of learing pass protections and blocking - i.e. rookie stuff. Plug and play. It sounds (or feels) like the FB is once again going to be part of our offense. The position disappeared last year - or ever since RIPs fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Leader said: Well - that depends (again) on how heavy MLF decides to go with the run game. If its considerably more than this year - which is what its sounding like - then I dont think AJ can be counted on to go the distance as the bell cow. He's good and all that - but so far he's proven injury prone. Williams rotates up and splits time with whomever is brought in. A veteran RB wouldnt have to go thru the learning curves of learing pass protections and blocking - i.e. rookie stuff. Plug and play. It sounds (or feels) like the FB is once again going to be part of our offense. The position disappeared last year - or ever since RIPs fumble. if MLF is running the ball more than like 40% of the time he's already super inefficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, rcon14 said: if MLF is running the ball more than like 40% of the time he's already super inefficient. Depends on what your definition of efficient is: 2013: Broken collarbone 2014: Calf tear 2016: Offseason clean-up surgery on knee from high school injury 2017: Broken collarbone 2018: MCL sprain, third reported concussion A little more running game might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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