VigilantZombie Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) As someone who is new might I be so bold as to suggest that we may want to add this to the docket in an owner's meeting in the near future because I am confused as hell. We got like five people trying to figure this out and it's still not working. I'm not suggesting any kind of rule change necessarily I'm suggesting the need for a cleaner more clear-cut rule to begin with Edited April 24, 2019 by wwhickok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I mean allow me to be honest. If I've got to get a degree in rocket science every time I want to give a player a 5th year option I will simply never do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 It's one of the things I'm going to try and fix during the summer. Just didn't want to prolong the Owner's meeting with it. Pretty much I think we should get rid of the Average thing and just do the 5th year option like a 3 Up at 75%. Just cleaner and easier to understand IMO. But for now I'm fine doing it the old way this year since I understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, wwhickok said: I mean allow me to be honest. If I've got to get a degree in rocket science every time I want to give a player a 5th year option I will simply never do it It’s a relatively simple ordeal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, PR said: He only has one year left for his rookie average. You don't backtrack the entire contract. I'm willing to listen because I'm regularly wrong on these things but how else do you get his IRL rookie average without taking the entire contract and dividing by the 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Counselor said: I find the irony in Hockey (who is always trying to find a loophole for his own deals to be less) trying to slam PR for the most amount of money possible. Yea....I'm a black and white kinda guy living a gray contract rules BDL world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I do think Hockey is right on this however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, wwhickok said: I mean allow me to be honest. If I've got to get a degree in rocket science every time I want to give a player a 5th year option I will simply never do it Psh, I just start throwing numbers around until SirA gets mad at me or Pheltz grumbles and throws his walker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said: Psh, I just start throwing numbers around until SirA gets mad at me or Pheltz grumbles and throws his walker. I dont mind the random numbers just seems that no one is 100% sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, MD4L said: It’s a relatively simple ordeal. Betsy there is no problem I'm a relatively simple guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Hockey5djh said: I'm willing to listen because I'm regularly wrong on these things but how else do you get his IRL rookie average without taking the entire contract and dividing by the 4 years? 1. You are doing Cap Hit instead of base salary. They are not the same thing. He has made 9,417 over 4 years. If you were to take his entire base salary and average it out it would come down to $2354.26 average. 2. That is again backdating a contract. We have specifically went against backdating contracts. Trying to make up the salary they haven't gotten paid over these past years by including it here doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 So...essentially qe are discounting 5th year options? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, PR said: 1. You are doing Cap Hit instead of base salary. They are not the same thing. He has made 9,417 over 4 years. If you were to take his entire base salary and average it out it would come down to $2354.26 average. 2. That is again backdating a contract. We have specifically went against backdating contracts. Trying to make up the salary they haven't gotten paid over these past years by including it here doesn't make sense. No it’s based on total contract including signing bonus. We don’t base 3up values or FA 50 percent starting points on base salaries. We base it on the entire contract, signing bonus included. So his average over 4 years should be 6,984,418 per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 It's just the final year's base Salary, whichever is higher. It always has been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Y’all have some bogus loopholes in this league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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