VigilantZombie Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Counselor said: Oh I don’t feel attacked. I did nothing wrong and I know that. I like the risk of the whole RFA situation. That’s why I traded him to get more now than I would if someone offered him a contract I couldn’t match. That’s how I took on the situation. Or I could have kept him for the season let him leave and get a first, or matched a contract offer and have him locked up on my team, or no one offers and I can three up him the next season. All these options is what makes it exciting to me. It makes more sense though now that I've been reminded that RFA contracts can be matched so really we only lose a player if we don't want to pay him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, wwhickok said: It makes more sense though now that I've been reminded that RFA contracts can be matched so really we only lose a player if we don't want to pay him And you get a pick in whichever round you tendered him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, bcb1213 said: You can't three up a rookie deal. It's ludicrous and I've tried to change it multiple times in owners meetings. Your only hope is if the niners sign him to an extension before deadline(which is possible) then you can three up based on that contract. But the way the rules are written, even if hes signed to a new deal irl I wouldn't be able to 3 up him. Because he'd still be an RFA and not an UFA. And according to the rules as they're written only UFA can be 3 upped. 1 hour ago, Jlash said: This is the point people are forgetting. He doesn't have to "give" anyone anything. He tenders the player, another owner makes a contract offer. He then can choose to match the deal or take the tendered pick. Pretty fair. That's true. But instead of getting the 75% contract I was banking on I'm probably going to have to pay well over 100% of what his contract is going to be. 58 minutes ago, Counselor said: Then don’t trade more than a first for an upcoming RFA. That’s the risk you take. That’s a thing I really like about this league. The options and risks. If we start making it too easy to retain players then this becomes a pancake league. Let’s look at the flip side of this. I was in Rackcs position with him so that’s why I moved him. I was ahead of the curve. Got more than a first and now I can offer a crazy contract get him back give them back a first and have those additional picks. I’m not going to offer him or Kupp though because I don’t want to. But I have every right to if I desired. I'm not blaming you at all. I gave up what I gave up and it's on me for not interpreting the rules correctly. I'm mostly mad at myself for that and then the rules for being dumb in this situation. My only hope at securing a long term deal for any young player who is an RFA is to pay out the *** to match someone's contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, rackcs said: But the way the rules are written, even if hes signed to a new deal irl I wouldn't be able to 3 up him. Because he'd still be an RFA and not an UFA. And according to the rules as they're written only UFA can be 3 upped. That's true. But instead of getting the 75% contract I was banking on I'm probably going to have to pay well over 100% of what his contract is going to be. I'm not blaming you at all. I gave up what I gave up and it's on me for not interpreting the rules correctly. I'm mostly mad at myself for that and then the rules for being dumb in this situation. My only hope at securing a long term deal for any young player who is an RFA is to pay out the *** to match someone's contract. I don’t think you’ll have to pay as much as you think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Send in plans people I only have 4 so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, rackcs said: That's true. But instead of getting the 75% contract I was banking on I'm probably going to have to pay well over 100% Huh? Based on what? You have no idea the contracts that will be offered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Jlash said: Huh? Based on what? You have no idea the contracts that will be offered. Second this. You won't have to pay over 100%. Just look at last year with Tyreek. Pheltz offered him 17.5k and he'll probably get a contract in the 20 mil a year IRL range. So while not 75%, it's still a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Alright, fair enough. It's been a while since I've been involved in this. Still don't like the rule but either way it is what it is at this point. I've made my bed and I've got to lie in it, no matter the outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Will be posting game plans at noon est. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Got all but OKC. Will post at kickoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Mine will be done closer to 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Matchups posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Mike Gesicki breakout party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, WFLukic said: Mike Gesicki breakout party. How about that undrafted Preston Williams I picked up though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 RFAs have a distinct value while they are tradeable. The bidding process for RFAs is probably the biggest chess match in the game. Knowing the market for each player IRL vs BDL value is serious deep algo math. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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