TXsteeler Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Knowledge said: Likely will end up being trash just like the first one. Theyre already catering to casuals in the Dark Zone for this game which is never a good thing Catering to casuals how? Taking away skill from pvp or giving everybody good gear for less effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowledge Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, TXsteeler said: Catering to casuals how? Taking away skill from pvp or giving everybody good gear for less effort? Its this quote here that got me suspect Quote Simply put, while the gear you've acquired will still confer some advantage, most of the base stats are squished in a way that will level competition. This is to make the Dark Zone seem less forbidding for those who venture into it less frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 17 hours ago, Knowledge said: Its this quote here that got me suspect So they are making it more skill based? Doesn't sound like it's catering to casuals to me, sounds like its making it so a good player can still compete with scrubs who play 40+ hours a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 hours ago, TXsteeler said: So they are making it more skill based? Doesn't sound like it's catering to casuals to me, sounds like its making it so a good player can still compete with scrubs who play 40+ hours a week. That's what I took from it as well. In skirmish, all gear is leveled to be the same. So someone going in with 206 gear will be similar to someone with 290. At this point it comes down to personal skill rather than who did more grinding for gear. I'm definitely curious if all three DZs will be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowledge Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said: That's what I took from it as well. In skirmish, all gear is leveled to be the same. So someone going in with 206 gear will be similar to someone with 290. At this point it comes down to personal skill rather than who did more grinding for gear. I'm definitely curious if all three DZs will be like that. Whats the point of having a gear grinding game to then go ahead a nerf the gear. The three dark zones will be normalized and occasionally a Occupied Dark Zone will happen that is timed where the gear isnt nerfed. It should be the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 15 hours ago, Knowledge said: Whats the point of having a gear grinding game to then go ahead a nerf the gear. There's never been a good pvp game that focusing on gear disparity rather than skill disparity because that can't exist. Gear grinds are for pve and for aesthetics, any games that involve it heavily in pvp have been failures compared to games with skill based pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowledge Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 6 hours ago, TXsteeler said: There's never been a good pvp game that focusing on gear disparity rather than skill disparity because that can't exist. Gear grinds are for pve and for aesthetics, any games that involve it heavily in pvp have been failures compared to games with skill based pvp. If they want skill based pvp they can play the conflict mode. I understand it but I think they went too extreme with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The campaign in the 1st was great to me especially playing multiplayer. Dark zone sucked initially so I quit playing. Hopefully the post-campaign gameplay is much better this time like they say it’s supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 2:36 PM, Knowledge said: If they want skill based pvp they can play the conflict mode. I understand it but I think they went too extreme with it Was the dark zone not the best/only way to keep progressing late game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 8:09 AM, TXsteeler said: Was the dark zone not the best/only way to keep progressing late game? I can speak on the release and the first few months of the game... there was no way to keep progressing end game. It was a broken mess. We (group of 4) would spend hours in the Dark Zone and we would be lucky if even one of us got an exotic drop. It was ridiculous. It definitely improved as I returned briefly after the 1.8 patch, but it was almost an entirely different game I was so lost to all the different gear sets and what not. Hopefully they learned from their mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I agree with @Knowledge Sounds like they're dumbing the Dark Zone for babies. In the words of Snoop... "If you scared, go to church" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The 8 man raids sound interesting. I enjoyed the first one. It didn't have the lasting power early on but the story was great, the group raids were a blast, and the DZ was fun for a little while but got grindy. Overall I got plenty of use out of it for my $60. Same with Destiny 1 and 2. All of them struggle to make the best gear come from the raids/tougher events. In Destiny's case the raid gear is all trash aside from the 1000 voices but its still a fun raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I've been in the private beta all weekend. The game seems fun to me. I don't have enough knowledge of the first game to compare the two, but I'm seeing a lot of stuff from vets of the series who hate a lot of things about this game from playing the private beta. Several people, who I know love this series, have told me to wait 6 months for them to fix all the problems until I buy it. I'm kind of inclined to listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 For those who haven't seen it yet, open beta is this coming weekend March 1-4! https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/12/the-division-2-open-beta-dates-announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Played the beta and thought it was pretty solid. Can’t wait to get it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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