RaidersAreOne Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, raidersedge said: Lot of Devin White talk to Raiders. Seems to be gaining steam. I don't really buy it. I think Mayock is too smart to get a MLB at #4. That's just poor value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, raidersedge said: Lot of Devin White talk to Raiders. Seems to be gaining steam. I’m warming up to Devin White. I personally think he’ll be a better football player than Montez Sweat, Ed Oliver, Josh Allen, and Rashan Gary. I still think 4 is a little too rich for an ILB but I want the best football players, not over draft on need. Trade to 8 and im ok with White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidersedge Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I agree it is rich to draft an ILB at 4 but with that said pretty good chance he goes 5th to Tampa Bay. White has that sideline to sideline ability, we have never had that. If we took him, its not like I would be mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 White could learn from burfict and marshall as well, which would be great for his development. I would still be a little concerned about edge but that position is pretty deep this year. Lb is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, BayRaider said: I’m warming up to Devin White. I personally think he’ll be a better football player than Montez Sweat, Ed Oliver, Josh Allen, and Rashan Gary. I still think 4 is a little too rich for an ILB but I want the best football players, not over draft on need. Trade to 8 and im ok with White. I think Bush will be the better of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, OG_C2X said: You don't know what any scount actually thinks. I don't either. He is the most explosive DE of the class. His first step is secobd to none. He shoots out of his stance. His first step is always out never up. He plays with amazing leverage. You have a preconceived opinion of any player. It blinds you from watching the film. I noticed Gary while re watching Michigan games to scout Devin Bush... Then you noticed he gets outplayed by Winovich consistantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: I don't really buy it. I think Mayock is too smart to get a MLB at #4. That's just poor value. I'm hear for it. I've been complaining about how poor the LBs are since Beikert retired! Bosa/Williams off the board. With the depth of Dline. Hard to argue against White as a piece to the puzzle in that front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, big_palooka said: I'm hear for it. I've been complaining about how poor the LBs are since Beikert retired! Bosa/Williams off the board. With the depth of Dline. Hard to argue against White as a piece to the puzzle in that front 7. I agree they seem to be doing things differently from the past so won't be surprised if they go LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Then you noticed he gets outplayed by Winovich consistantly. But who translates better? Winovich is getting overrated now because of his combine performance. But he wasn't that athlete on tape. Gary has the skill set that translate and you saw flashes of it at Michigan. Gary gets compared to Cam Jordan who didn't produce a lot of sacks in college but developed into one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, big_palooka said: But who translates better? Winovich is getting overrated now because of his combine performance. But he wasn't that athlete on tape. Gary has the skill set that translate and you saw flashes of it at Michigan. Gary gets compared to Cam Jordan who didn't produce a lot of sacks in college but developed into one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. Winovich, his non stop motor and heart will make him the better Pro . Cam Jordan still had damn near double Gary's production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Thanks for clarifying why YOU have him ranked 4. You just parrot everything PFF says. Never watched a game of his in your life. Crystal clear now. I have him as #4 ahead of Tillery but behind Wilkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: YOU ARE! Now I know you're trolling..... You're saying he was dominated by CFL/XFL Oline in college. Talking out both side of your mouth. I'm not crapping on him, he'll be a good 3T but he's limited and will need to be in the right scheme to succeed. He's not as good as Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Almost time for a new thread, let’s keep that thread Oliver/QW clean, feel it’s all I been reading for two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, big_palooka said: But who translates better? Winovich is getting overrated now because of his combine performance. But he wasn't that athlete on tape. Gary has the skill set that translate and you saw flashes of it at Michigan. Gary gets compared to Cam Jordan who didn't produce a lot of sacks in college but developed into one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. He's almost identical to Jordan in terms of physical profile but tested out much better at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG_C2X Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Then you noticed he gets outplayed by Winovich consistantly. He was out produced sure... But Gary's Skillset on film translates to the NFL much better then Winovich does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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