Cadmus Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I want them to double dip. Preferably both in the Top 4 Rounds. You don't let a draft class with a potentially generational group of EDGE prospects simply pass you by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Because the packers are one injury away from Fackrell starting at edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Cadmus said: I want them to double dip. Preferably both in the Top 4 Rounds. You don't let a draft class with a potentially generational group of EDGE prospects simply pass you by. Interesting. I never think of double dipping. Round 4 may be a good place - we have 2 picks there. Imagine how last season would have turned out if Gute was satisfied and overly confident in Moore in the 4th being good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 9 hours ago, AcGbPacker said: I wasn't saying no edge, just not first round. Or second, or third. I would have been more invested in this view if you hadn't added "or third" to your comment. Christian Miller (in the 3rd) and Anthony Nelson (in the 4th) look like good targets to me. Maxx Crosby is an interesting developmental pick as well. There ARE edge prospects all through the draft that (in theory) get steadily worse as the draft progresses. The trick is finding a bargain in terms of talent/upside, relative to the draft slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilprin Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I really like the idea of adding another edge guy...maybe two. I like Burns and Sweat (i probably like Ferrell more than most)...I like Winovich, Granderson and Ximines next. Miller, Hollins, Obangu, Crosby, and Van Ginkel as well. The point is there are prospects on every level. With 10 picks they should take one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Leader said: We're drafting higher than we have in a dog's age......This is supposed to be a really good EDGE class....... And you want us to pass on all the top tier guys for some 4th round bodies. I'm sure they're "quality players"....but are they difference makers (?) or will they just eat up snaps? The DL is really good -- best/deepest ever -- imo. Just a bit raw. The edge is deeper than I thought. Very good value, rounds 2-4. The top of the class is way way overrated, including Bosa. I'm not alone in wanting a move down. I want 1-3 more picks 20-100. Deepest TE, WR, DL class in forever. This can easily set up Rodgers for the next 5 years. One edge won't do it and pressure from the inside is so much more disruptive. Lawrence, Simmons, and Q Williams I have above any edge in the class. (I'm meh on Oliver -- another team like Atlanta can use him better.) Then gold at DL in round 5 even, just need a good fit. There is no one I want with that 12 pick. I'd be happy with Dillard or Lawrence but still seems a bit much to pay. I straight up prefer some of the round 2-3 guys than some that will be there. It's not at all like last year where I liked most the guys that went 14-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pilprin said: I really like the idea of adding another edge guy...maybe two. I like Burns and Sweat (i probably like Ferrell more than most)...I like Winovich, Granderson and Ximines next. Miller, Hollins, Obangu, Crosby, and Van Ginkel as well. The point is there are prospects on every level. With 10 picks they should take one or two. I love the day two guys (and I put Ferrell in that group). Also Banogu (edit: you have him misspelled) is my favorite from raw talent who looks like he can be developed. He showed it and had production, just had no coaching/development. Teams are all over him. Folks are sleeping on Joe Jackson. That's my Kampman. He's going to be better than most the underwear Olympics specialists and be a team leader. D'Andre Walker too. All these guys have better bodies than most of the top guys, who scare me. A couple I don't mind around 20, but with depth, I'm just not burning a 12 on such risks. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilprin Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 If we could start out with Fant, Tillery, AJ Brown...that would be a nice start to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pilprin said: If we could start out with Fant, Tillery, AJ Brown...that would be a nice start to the draft. Brown is getting overrated. I'm thinking Tillery is not that high on our board (edit -- I could see him at 30). And there are TEs who will have better careers or close to Fant in day two. TE is not worth a 12 except to Detroit. And an FYI, the Packers are ALL OVER Isabella. Arizona wants him with their third. The question is whether GB wants to jump them. Pauline has been all over this. Not a secret. Kinda like Cobb that was clearly a Packer. Personally I prefer Campbell higher. Isabella's hands have me a bit concerned. But I'm going to look closer at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, JaireAlex said: I love the day two guys (and I put Ferrell in that group). Also Banogu is my favorite from raw talent who looks like he can be developed. He showed it just had no coaching. Folks are sleeping on Joe Jackson. That's my Kampman. He's going to be better than most the underwear Olympics specialists and be a team leader. One write-up had Jackson's comp being ZSmith. I'd be on board with him in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, cannondale said: One write-up had Jackson's comp being ZSmith. I'd be on board with him in the 4th. Yes. What I see. I say Kampman just from a blue collar comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilprin Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, JaireAlex said: Brown is getting overrated. I'm thinking Tillery is not that high on our board (edit -- I could see him at 30). And there are TEs who will have better careers or close to Fant in day two. TE is not worth a 12 except to Detroit. And an FYI, the Packers are ALL OVER Isabella. Arizona wants him with their third. The question is whether GB wants to jump them. Pauline has been all over this. Not a secret. Kinda like Cobb that was clearly a Packer. Personally I prefer Campbell higher. Isabella's hands have me a bit concerned. But I'm going to look closer at him. You think Brown at 44 is overrated? I disagree. I am not against sliding back to 15 or 17 to grab Fant. I just think he is the one guy who can be multiple and run the seem routes to open everything else up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pilprin said: You think Brown at 44 is overrated? I disagree. I am not against sliding back to 15 or 17 to grab Fant. I just think he is the one guy who can be multiple and run the seem routes to open everything else up. Brown at 44 is ok value. First round is too much though. If they took Fant after a drop back, I'd be ok. I just like dropping back from the 30 and grabbing Banogu and Joe Jackson or other edge with the 2 picks. With the extra third, I'd grab Scharping whom everyone seems to love but doesn't want to pay for. He's the guy I want after Dillard. So, we over pay a little for some very solid developmental talent and leave ourselves all but one pick for TEs, RG, WR, DL, and safety. Importantly, we can take the guys we want and don't have to settle for odd fits and second best. They really can kill it in this draft and I think Gute will. Will be fun to see how they take advantage of so much draft capital. Those move downs leave a lot of picks and addresses future edge and tackle. We only need a starter at safety and slot WR next year and perhaps improvement at RG. The rest is developmental and rotational for year one. And this class is loaded with developmental gems between 20&100. They will be carrying us to multiple runs for the Superbowl, not some edge at 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Pilprin said: If we could start out with Fant, Tillery, AJ Brown...that would be a nice start to the draft. at 12??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, JaireAlex said: The DL is really good -- best/deepest ever -- imo. Just a bit raw. The edge is deeper than I thought. Very good value, rounds 2-4. The top of the class is way way overrated, including Bosa. I'm not alone in wanting a move down. I want 1-3 more picks 20-100. Deepest TE, WR, DL class in forever. This can easily set up Rodgers for the next 5 years. One edge won't do it and pressure from the inside is so much more disruptive. Lawrence, Simmons, and Q Williams I have above any edge in the class. (I'm meh on Oliver -- another team like Atlanta can use him better.) Then gold at DL in round 5 even, just need a good fit. There is no one I want with that 12 pick. I'd be happy with Dillard or Lawrence but still seems a bit much to pay. I straight up prefer some of the round 2-3 guys than some that will be there. It's not at all like last year where I liked most the guys that went 14-18. Thanks for the information and understood. I dont dive as deep as many others regards the talent pool, so knowing the names of potential targets down there is good to know. The DL is very deep this year. Thats good - but, relatively speaking we've got plenty of bodies along the DL already (with the caveat that Daniels may leave next year) whereas EDGE is currently about as thin as it could be - unless the team decided to bypass the position all together. Thats why I want a top flight EDGE guy first. Will GB select that way? Probably not. I realize you've gone from disliking Burns....to now hating him.....and fear if this draft takes any longer to come around you might contract a hit on the guy But - based on comments of some here and what I've read/seen - he's my preferred @ 12. I'm not gonna dislike anybody they get at 12 - but I'd like that position bulked up and he's my choice. Btw - since this seems topical - I'll post it here. It's a redo of a perceived "draft mistake" on ESPN: Green Bay Packers First round of the 2017 draft (No. 29 overall)Actual pick: Kevin King, CB, Washington (after trading down to No. 33)Do-over pick: T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin After the Packers traded down in Ted Thompson's final draft as general manager, the Steelers picked Watt at No. 30 and the Packers took King with the first pick in the second round (the Packers also got the No. 104 pick in trade). It seemed like a risk at the time given the Packers' need for a pass-rusher and King's history of shoulder problems. Sure enough, Watt had seven sacks as a rookie and 13 last season, while King has finished each of his first two seasons on injured reserve. The Packers then had to use their top pick in 2018 on another corner, Jaire Alexander, and spent big money on their pass rush in free agency this year with Za'Darius Smith and Preston Smith. -- Rob Demovsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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