Matts4313 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dome said: lets go pickle... best case he's scum and we can explore mwils theory that him and orca are both scum. worst case is we'll be able to hear ourselves think tomorrow. This is *exactly* my point. You keep posting like you know you will be around tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: This is *exactly* my point. You keep posting like you know you will be around tomorrow. I think it'd be weirder if he was posting as though he was going to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Matts4313 said: You upped your aggressive level about 15x's at the idea of your lynch. "lying down" for your lynch is not the same as "accepting the possibility". You havent even entertained the idea of you dying as a viable strategy. It's not my job to entertain it. I know I'm still alive. I don't know when I'll die. I know I'm town. I don't know who did this or what caused it. I think letting me die/survive will provide more info and lynching me to find out I was town and probably targeted by a non-town mechanic that we still don't understand because we killed the first person targeted by it is a bad move. I'm 100% against my own lynch. If that's a scum read for you (or something to be worried about, or to keep an eye on, however you phrased it) you're doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: This is *exactly* my point. You keep posting like you know you will be around tomorrow. Why wouldn't I? I got my balls cut off. You can come back from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Dome said: or touch, pwny, glen, utley etc we have options. lets not bottom out on pickle. Ive asked people to vote Utley like 500 times with no traction. Why is that? Just now, rackcs said: 1. Did you miss Pickle's post of like six or seven names, all of whom he put on there for speaking negatively about him? 2. None, just hosted the marvel one with him. He was also constantly absent as town there. I still think scum partners would be pushing him to post seeing as how he hasn't at all yet. 3. What kind of ****ty convert would that be? You convert them for half a day phase and then they die, confirming that they were converted? 1. Thats just pickles playstyle. He always names 1/2 the game so he can claim credit for how many he nailed. 2. How would scum partners push him? Ive been scum with Utley. I pmed him directly dozens of times that he was going to inactive die. He never showed up. I have found the only way to motivate him to play is to vote for him. 3. It would be a new mechanic consistent with lore. Instead of just day killing them, you get to use them to manipulate town for a bit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rackcs Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Matts4313 said: Ive asked people to vote Utley like 500 times with no traction. Why is that? 1. Thats just pickles playstyle. He always names 1/2 the game so he can claim credit for how many he nailed. 2. How would scum partners push him? Ive been scum with Utley. I pmed him directly dozens of times that he was going to inactive die. He never showed up. I have found the only way to motivate him to play is to vote for him. 3. It would be a new mechanic consistent with lore. Instead of just day killing them, you get to use them to manipulate town for a bit as well. 1. I know it is. You claimed he wasn't doing that though. 2. Fair enough. Like I said, only had the one game with Utley but I was just saying why I would probably go for people who have posted and lied low rather than someone who hasn't posted at all. 3. The mechanic is terrible though and makes no sense. How much manipulating can you even do in half a day phase? It'd be a pretty worthless conversion mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 With 23 players alive, it is 12 to lynch. pickle -7 (woz, james, swag,squire, pwny, mwil, counselor utley - 3 (matts, nacho, dome) naz - 1 ( orca ) ted - 1 (forge) nacho - 1 ( rack) swag - 1 (pickle ) dingo - 1 (bcb) dome - 1 (dingo ) touch - 1 (et80 ) matts - 1 (glen Didnt vote: @theuntouchable @Ragnarok @Nazgul @TedLavie @Utley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, rackcs said: I think it'd be weirder if he was posting as though he was going to die. Explain? The notion all of us, including Dome (as stated in thread) is that he expects to die tonight. But none of his post coincide with attitude. 2 minutes ago, Dome said: It's not my job to entertain it. I'm 100% against my own lynch. If that's a scum read for you (or something to be worried about, or to keep an eye on, however you phrased it) you're doing it wrong. It is your job if you are town. And dying as town is not always a bad move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: 3. It would be a new mechanic consistent with lore. Instead of just day killing them, you get to use them to manipulate town for a bit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Matts4313 said: Explain? The notion all of us, including Dome (as stated in thread) is that he expects to die tonight. But none of his post coincide with attitude. It is your job if you are town. And dying as town is not always a bad move. That's what you told squire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: They gave me a bottle of rum to drink from. Changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, rackcs said: 1. I know it is. You claimed he wasn't doing that though. No, I claimed he wasnt playing his civ game. He does that as scum or civ. Its a nulltell. 2 minutes ago, rackcs said: 2. Fair enough. Like I said, only had the one game with Utley but I was just saying why I would probably go for people who have posted and lied low rather than someone who hasn't posted at all. @Utley has been on the website, tagged and still not posted. You cant lay any lower than that. 2 minutes ago, rackcs said: 3. The mechanic is terrible though and makes no sense. How much manipulating can you even do in half a day phase? It'd be a pretty worthless conversion mechanic. Dont think of it as a conversion mechanic. Think of it as a day hit with an added bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dome said: That's what you told squire. And it wasnt. As long as Counselor would have stuck to the plan. I had him in higher regard towards the end of that game, and my trust in him ultimately cost us the entire game. It was my bad. I should have been smarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 matts is seriously spending time trying to convince a player that if he is town he should consider just lying down and taking the lynch 7 hours before deadline. 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Dont think of it as a conversion mechanic. Think of it as a day hit with an added bonus. All the more reason not to lynch me, it's obvious a non-town move that was used on me if this is the theory you're running with now. You're seriously advocating lynching someone you apparently think scum attacked on N1 to avoid a mislynch? That gives us NO information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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