buno67 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Taking a page out of @mission27's book with his NL Cy thread. Basically who wins the AL Cy Young award? IMO this is just a two man race between Corey Kluber and Chris Sale. In about every major pitching state these two guys are #1 and #2. WAR Kluber 6.6 Sale 5.5 ERA Kluber 2.56 Sale 2.77 Wins Sale 15 Kluber 14 Walks & Hits per IP Kluber .895 Sale .912 Hits per 9 IP Kluber 6.296 Sae 6.507 Bases on Balls per 9 IP Sale 1.700 Kluber 1.761 Strikeouts per 9 IP Sale 12.82 Kluber 11.84 Innings pitched Sale 185.1 7. Kluber 168.2 Strikeouts 1. Sale 264 3. Kluber 222 Strikeouts / Base On Balls Sale 7.543 Kluber 6.727 Adjusted ERA+ Kluber 181 Sale 165 Fielding Independent Pitching Sale 2.00 Kluber 2.55 Adj. Pitching Runs Kluber 37 Sale 36 Adj. Pitching Wins Kluber 4.0 Sale 3.8 Win Probability Added (WPA) Sale 3.9 Kluber 3.4 -------------------------------- Homer in me is going with Kluber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker8267 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Should be noted that WAR above is bWAR; fWAR has Sale over Kluber, 7.9-6.0. It should also be stated that no AL pitcher has gotten to 7.9 fWAR since Zack Greinke's behemoth 2009 Cy Young winning season. Sale has ~5 more starts to build on that. If Sale passes 8.6 fWAR, he'll join only Pedro Martinez (9.4 fWAR in 2000) to hit that mark in the new millennium. Give me Sale, but Kluber would be deserving of the award in almost any other season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Sale. And I'd vote for him for MVP too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 This one is less close imo. Kluber has been great, but Sale is on another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yep, it's Sale right now. Kluber would win in most years but Sale is out of this world right now. I think the only way Kluber catches up is if Sale collapses or if Kluber has a historic stretch run (5 starts, 35+ innings, sub .9 WHIP, sub 2 ERA, 45 Ks and 4 BBs or something crazy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, playmaker8267 said: Should be noted that WAR above is bWAR; fWAR has Sale over Kluber, 7.9-6.0. It should also be stated that no AL pitcher has gotten to 7.9 fWAR since Zack Greinke's behemoth 2009 Cy Young winning season. Sale has ~5 more starts to build on that. If Sale passes 8.6 fWAR, he'll join only Pedro Martinez (9.4 fWAR in 2000) to hit that mark in the new millennium. Give me Sale, but Kluber would be deserving of the award in almost any other season. yeah I didnt make that distinction with the WAR. I was using the stats from https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2017-pitching-leaders.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers0909 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It's ridiculous how good Sale has been. Every time Klubot has another amazing start I head to FanGraphs just to always see that Sale is still leading by ~2 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viewsfromthe206 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The guy who has a great case for MVP. Sale has been ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Sale has more wins obvious selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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