BleedTheClock Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, heafstaag said: Are you a Raiders or a Broncos fan or something? ...no, I just hate scumbags. 9 minutes ago, heafstaag said: You should shut your mouth. ok kiddo. Sorry I hurt your feelings. 9 minutes ago, heafstaag said: Most people in KC were ready to have Hill cut, banned, and jailed- until the case dragged out and more info. This isn't a real sentence, but what exactly has come to light that made it seem like Tyreek Hill didn't do this? I'd love to see that. 9 minutes ago, heafstaag said: Is Hill a saint? No. However, in this case people presumed he was guilty. Because he is a piece of crap. That's not arguable. And he wasn't cleared of all of the charges. He's not going to get in trouble AS OF RIGHT NOW. The NFL didn't have enough evidence to do anything yet. That comes later. 9 minutes ago, heafstaag said: That doesn't appear to be the case right now...so there is no need to punish him. I agree that they should wait to find incriminating evidence. It's only a matter of time, after all. But Chiefs fans are acting like he didn't do it and they can now cheer for their favorite WR once again. If you want to cheer for this child & woman beating piece of human garbage, don't expect people with a conscience to smile at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 @BleedTheClock I'm not a mod in NFL News, but I'm going to be honest with you, your last two posts are how this thread is going to very quickly find itself locked, like every Tyreek thread before it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: Because he is a piece of crap. That's not arguable. And he wasn't cleared of all of the charges. He's not going to get in trouble AS OF RIGHT NOW. The NFL didn't have enough evidence to do anything yet. That comes later. I mean, the case is closed with no charges, right? Sure, if new evidence arises that definitely changes things, but that’s the case for every situation always. You’re phrasing it like it’s an ongoing investigation and that feels a bit disingenuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heafstaag Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: ...no, I just hate scumbags. ok kiddo. Sorry I hurt your feelings. This isn't a real sentence, but what exactly has come to light that made it seem like Tyreek Hill didn't do this? I'd love to see that. Because he is a piece of crap. That's not arguable. And he wasn't cleared of all of the charges. He's not going to get in trouble AS OF RIGHT NOW. The NFL didn't have enough evidence to do anything yet. That comes later. I agree that they should wait to find incriminating evidence. It's only a matter of time, after all. But Chiefs fans are acting like he didn't do it and they can now cheer for their favorite WR once again. If you want to cheer for this child & woman beating piece of human garbage, don't expect people with a conscience to smile at you. ... Any of the news that has come out in the last 4 months? As of now it appears Tyreek Hill did not abuse his son. there are no charges and no punishments- which is good. IF it is later found out that Hill did in fact hurt is son then cut him, ban him from the league, and put him in jail. As of now it appears its basically case closed. I'm glad Hill didn't hurt his child, and glad he can play football. Also, wow! Such a noble person bashing someone he has never met on an internet forum! So conscientious of you! You must be a paragon of virtue. Am a right? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, heafstaag said: Any of the news that has come out in the last 4 months? As of now it appears Tyreek Hill did not abuse his son. there are no charges and no punishments- which is good. What news? Care to link it for me? Or should I just take your word for it? 1 minute ago, heafstaag said: IF it is later found out that Hill did in fact hurt is son then cut him, ban him from the league, and put him in jail. Agree. Glad you feel that way. 1 minute ago, heafstaag said: As of now it appears its basically case closed. I'm glad Hill didn't hurt his child, and glad he can play football. It's not case closed though. That's why they said it's staying open. And you have no idea whether or not Hill abused his child. I'd put $$$ on the fact that he did. 1 minute ago, heafstaag said: Also, wow! Such a noble person bashing someone he has never met on an internet forum! So conscientious of you! You must be a paragon of virtue. Am a right? Pretty much spot-on! 1 minute ago, heafstaag said: Ridiculous. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Soggust said: I mean, the case is closed with no charges, right? Sure, if new evidence arises that definitely changes things, but that’s the case for every situation always. You’re phrasing it like it’s an ongoing investigation and that feels a bit disingenuous. No, the case is wide open and its stated as such in the letter on page 1 from the NFL. The case is ongoing and the details are confidential, so no one in KC outside of the people involved in the case truly know what is going on. No where in this statement did they absolve Tyreek from any wrong doing, they just said the PD couldnt YET say definitively one way or the other if he was at fault for the injuries to his son. Edited July 19, 2019 by Cheesehawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: It's literally just scummy Chiefs fans that believe he's "innocent" or that justice was done. I said it in the previous thread, read up on the updates over the past few months. Evidence points to his ex being the guilty party. Stop reading headlines and get into the information before calling a fanbase scummy. If he is guilty, he shouldn't be playing. The police, courts, team, and league don't believe he hurt his son. Many people are coming in with a preconceived notion he's guilty no matter what the courts/league say, despite them having access to evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, kingseanjohn said: Evidence points to his ex being the guilty party. I've seen this over and over. Is there perhaps a credible article that supports this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cheesehawk said: No, the case is wide open and its stated as such in the letter on page 1 from the NFL. The case is ongoing and the details are confidential, so no one in KC outside of the people involved in the case truly know what is going on. No where in this statement did they absolve Tyreek from any wrong doing, they just said the PD couldnt YET say definitively one way or the other if he was at fault for the injuries to his son. My understanding is that the family court case is still open (which is very typical in these scenarios as they tend to make the parties go through a bunch of steps to err on the side of safety for the child), but the criminal case is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Soggust said: My understanding is that the family court case is still open (which is very typical in these scenarios as they tend to make the parties go through a bunch of steps to err on the side of safety for the child), but the criminal case is closed. This is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: I've seen this over and over. Is there perhaps a credible article that supports this? *Calls a fanbase "scummy"* *Asks fanbase to help him use Google* Yup we'll get right on that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I dont think the Chiefs fanbase is scummy because they hope and pray these allegations arent true. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, BleedTheClock said: I've seen this over and over. Is there perhaps a credible article that supports this? I don't have the time, nor do I really care about changing anyone's opinions. But here's a few links that were easily accessible. Quote Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill did not break his three-year-old son’s arm last January, and neither did his fiancée, Crystal Espinal. According to multiple sources close to the investigation, Hill and Espinal were cleared of any role in the broken bone injury almost immediately after the investigation began in March. Investigators quickly agreed with the medical staff that the broken bone was the result of typical accident involving a rambunctious toddler, consistent with reaching out to brace for a fall. http://www.810whb.com/2019/06/10/whb-exclusive-tyreek-hill-did-not-break-sons-arm/?fbclid=IwAR1nOqf-tFprQMs8i3-tYW-FgnhJaRjq8GHwjgWGAHLAY2kmuAO5vshymJ0 Here's a link to the full 11+ minute audio, where his ex secretly recorded him: https://610sports.radio.com/articles/exclusive-audio-chiefs-tyreek-hill-heard-denying-domestic-assault-fiancee I can't quickly find a link, but his ex is/was suspected of having Munchausen Syndrome. There's more info, but as I said, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to change people's minds. I don't care what you think about Hill. But calling Chiefs fans scummy because we're more informed is sad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Soggust said: My understanding is that the family court case is still open (which is very typical in these scenarios as they tend to make the parties go through a bunch of steps to err on the side of safety for the child), but the criminal case is closed. That is correct. My apologies. Pretty laughable that the DA declined to file charges only 5 days after he lost custody of his child and the decision to investigate further didnt take place until after the audio came out where Hill told Crystal ,"you need to be terrified of me, too, *****". Wonder which box at Arrowhead the DAs office has this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 The only sources I have ever seen saying there was no evidence is from KC beat writers. Hardly credible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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