incognito_man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leader said: You're enamored with social media and lend it greater credence or power than it holds. In NFL FO's its the contract and assessment of the players value to the team that sways their decision. You're wrong here And at the worst possible time. Antonio Brown blows up your whole notion, and nothing more really needs to be said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, incognito_man said: You're wrong here And at the worst possible time. Antonio Brown blows up your whole notion, and nothing more really needs to be said. Good. We'll disagree and you wont say anything more. Win - win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norse65 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: Not saying I totally buy into this, but...PFF says coverage is more important than rushing the passer. Quick passes negate elite pass rushers, not elite corners. For whatever it is worth, many NFL teams subscribe to PFF and use their analytics. If that is the case....I would think that Ramsey could fetch multiple #1 picks. He is that good. He is still very young. But..we are seeing them negotiate via the media. If you set the asking price at two #1's...well....my best guess would be that you know you will negotiate off of that number. No real reason for my post, other than to say that I'm a huge NFL fan. I remember when John McKay of the Buccaneers once told his players to "Get back, or I'll trade all of you to Green Bay!!" Coaches and teams had power. With social media? It's changing. Now you can tweet your way or "unfollow" your way out of your current team. It is an interesting dynamic. BTW...McKay also said "If a contest had 97 prizes, the 98'th would be a trip to Green Bay." Classic. He also said...'Kickers are like horse manure, they are all over the place." Finally..."We didn't tackle well today, but we made up for it by not blocking." After a particularly lackluster performance in the middle of Tampa Bays 0 - 24 opening games McKay was asked by a reporter about his teams execution . I’m in favor of it, was his reply. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Leader said: Good. We'll disagree and you wont say anything more. Win - win I will probably keep responding if you keep being wrong, just FYI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, incognito_man said: I will probably keep responding if you keep being wrong, just FYI Go ahead....but in your next response, inform us how a team loses the power of the contract over player transactions. How its not ultimately the teams decision? Twitter posts? "Unfollows" on Instragram? Go ahead. If you're gonna keep responding - come up with the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, Leader said: Go ahead....but in your next response, inform us how a team loses the power of the contract over player transactions. How its not ultimately the teams decision? Twitter posts? "Unfollows" on Instragram? Go ahead. If you're gonna keep responding - come up with the answer to that. Antonio Brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Antonio Brown So? What? How was it NOT OAKs decision to release or trade him? You'll have to do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leader said: So? What? How was it NOT OAKs decision to release or trade him? You'll have to do better. AB was never going to play a single down for OAK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Ahhhhh let me correct myself...... Within the framework of the NFL, the only other instance where its not a teams decision is when the league steps in and suspends the guy - but even then - the teams retains his rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, Fl0nkerton said: AB was never going to play a single down for OAK. Perhaps not - but thats supposition on your part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Leader said: So? What? How was it NOT OAKs decision to release or trade him? You'll have to do better. Here in the real world there is a little more nuance. The results speak for themselves, I don't have to do better at anything. Im properly observing reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, incognito_man said: Here in the real world there is a little more nuance. The results speak for themselves, I don't have to do better at anything. Im properly observing reality. So you think.....but again, you've failed to point out when or how the team loses the power of the contract. Thats all I've been saying and so far nobody's been able to say when/where that would happen. Twitter posts? Instagram comments? Nope. Ultimately, it's the teams decision....even in your nuanced world....contract law matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'd chime in but I'm only an expert at bird law, don't know about contract law. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festiveonion Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Fl0nkerton said: AB was never going to play a single down for OAK. Why did he sign a contract extension then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Speaking of our friend AB, lmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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