Nex_Gen Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Look how green that grass is... PS....@Deadpulse Don't waste your time my guy. It's too precious.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Ghost stresses me out too at times, but the hate he gets is ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofos Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, SBLIII said: Did. It's not true though. Gost played through an injury. I was being sarcastic. I don't take anything Dole' post serious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 We certainly are in a kicking crisis. Say what you want about '19 Ghost, but under him, for the best part of 10 years, we've never had to think about kickers (until now). We are feeling something a few others teams go through year after year. Let's hope we never have to rely on 3 points with 8 seconds to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Matt Bryant is available. Why not cut Nugent and hold onto that little bit of cap space for the trade deadline. Why not try to claim Bryant after if you can't make any other trades. Jake Bailey has been below average as a holder thus far, why not try using him on extra points for a game. Anyone who can hit an extra point and field goals of equal or less distance in normal conditions is the same or better than what Gostkowski was giving you this season. Fact. As for the Super Bowls, I mean, anyone can be signed to choke and miss at least one kick per game, right? Yeah, I'm sure anyone can be signed off the street to nail a 41 yarder to seal a Super Bowl Championship. It's funny how you always conveniently ignore how clutch that kick was. But hey, whatever fits your narrative pal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 hours ago, DoleINGout said: This year any kicker is better than Gostkowski. Yes- please continue to pound the table for this narrative when posters provide actual statistical evidence that this claim is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Wait wait wait I missed this post The Patriots cut Mike Nugent merely to save cap space? Haahahahaaha 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Dole needs to see a psychiatrist over his hatred for Ghost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, 1ForTheThumb said: Wait wait wait I missed this post The Patriots cut Mike Nugent merely to save cap space? Haahahahaaha Again, taking things out of context and framing it a way that is inaccurate to make yourself feel better. I clearly said if it was to save cap space, it would be temporary because of the trade deadline. I also said if it was not for that reason, then another possibility could be to sign Matt Bryant. If you want to mock laugh at anything, laugh at yourself for leaving things out that I say. Nick Folk is the same or worse at extra points as Mike Nugent, and slightly better as a place kicker if only because he has a longer range. I wonder if Folk is also a temporary security in case they miss out on Bryant, who I'd think they would be after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Elky said: Dole needs to see a psychiatrist over his hatred for Ghost. It's not a hatred. It's a clear lack of ability to hit clutch kicks including basic extra points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, 1ForTheThumb said: Yes- please continue to pound the table for this narrative when posters provide actual statistical evidence that this claim is wrong. There is evidence to the contrary on extra points. My "narrative" that now you and @Deadpulse like to insinuate I am using, is that any kicker in the league can make extra points more efficiently than Gostkowski as well as average one missed kick in Super Bowls. That is not a narrative @Nex_Gen, @SBLIII, @jofos, @Iron_man, and anybody else circle jerking over this kicking issue the Patriots have, those are statistics of Gostkowski's that is replicable by any average kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) https://www.patspulpit.com/2019/10/30/20939656/why-new-england-patriots-mid-season-change-kicker-mike-nugent-nick-folk-nfl-analysis Numbers only tell one half of the story. The fact I have to repeatedly outline why "numbers don't tell the whole story" when I know a majority of posters involved here know that to be true, proves that there is now a personal agenda or just really bad reading comprehension, (which I don't think it's so much the latter). Edited October 30, 2019 by DoleINGout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Again, taking things out of context and framing it a way that is inaccurate to make yourself feel better. I clearly said if it was to save cap space, it would be temporary because of the trade deadline. I also said if it was not for that reason, then another possibility could be to sign Matt Bryant. If you want to mock laugh at anything, laugh at yourself for leaving things out that I say. Nick Folk is the same or worse at extra points as Mike Nugent, and slightly better as a place kicker if only because he has a longer range. I wonder if Folk is also a temporary security in case they miss out on Bryant, who I'd think they would be after. Sorry for leaving out additional things you said that were wrong. My apologies, surely won't happen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 hours ago, 1ForTheThumb said: Sorry for leaving out additional things you said that were wrong. My apologies, surely won't happen again. +1 for ignoring the point and creating your own - wait for it, here comes your word - narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhunt2402 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Gostkowski isn't worth what they're paying him but let's not act like he's not better than 80-90% of all NFL kickers, let alone the guys that are available mid-season. /thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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