TitanLegend Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Carr doesn't suck but he's been mind numbingly average in several different offenses. Titans just need to sign or tag Tannehill and not mess around with any of this Brady BS or any other QB. No reason to be stupid about it, sign the guy thats already had success in the system. If he regresses terribly, oh well, still the most logical/best choice you can make right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, TitanRedd said: I’m not concerned wit what most teams I’m concerned wit the Titans. Enjoy King Henry new deal as a Titan 🤗🤗🤗 I like Henry. I'll enjoy rooting for him if he gets one. That doesn't mean I let my fan loyalty cloud my judgement of what's better for a football team's long-term future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Step 1. Boot the QB with 1 year of success in the offense. Step 2.Sell the farm to pay for a RB with 1 year of success in the offense. Step 3. Profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, KingTitan said: Same could have been said about Tannehill. Well it was said about him. Statistically they aren't that far apart. Watching them is two completely different stories though.. Carr doesn’t throw the ball downfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragevsuall17 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, TitanSS said: Henry never having success is not my argument. I know Henry has had some success in the last 1.5 years. The argument was that Derrick Henry will not reproduce the success he had in the last half of the season and the post-season and that is it unfair to expect him to do that or his replacement to do that. If he continued that success over a season he would have had like 2500 rushing yards. If that's the kind of success you're expecting every game from a position that is largely dependant on it's surrounding environment you are setting yourself up for a massive disappointment. I don't think anyone is expecting him to continue on the record breaking pace he had the past few months. I'm saying his success extends more than just half a season as you've claimed (8 games in a 4 year career was your statement). We hope for better consistency from him, but there will be peaks and valleys (like all other good players... good with bouts of greatness), and he's at least shown the past 2 years that he picks up steam towards the end of the season, similar to how he does towards the end of games when given a chance. That's when we'll need him most. Even if we weren't effective slowing the Chiefs down a couple of weeks ago, it's the right approach. Expecting him to continue at a torrid pace is unrealistic, but it's not unrealistic to expect him to continue on a per game pace as he has since the Eddie call, or at least close to it. But as long as he continues to punish defenders, drawing crowded boxes, he'll be invaluable to the team (as long as the qb is effective taking advantage of the play action, like Tannehill excelled at this year). And if he's the model we build our team after... What was JRobs saying a couple years ago, talking about the ideal Titan?... We'll be able to set up a culture and identity that players will want to come to. They'll see a leader who may be willing to take under market value... And a team that takes care of its own... All in one fell swoop. I know I've said it before, but it bears repeating... This is much more than just a RB signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 52 minutes ago, dtait93 said: Watching them is two completely different stories though.. Carr doesn’t throw the ball downfield 7.9 per attempt. 9th in the league. Ahead of Watson, Brees, Rivers, Lamar Jackson, Rodgers and Goff. Last year Carr ranked higher than Tannehill by small margin. 7.3 to 7.2. Marcus threw it downfield more than Tannehill according to the stat. (7.6) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans fan 617 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I’m not saying I want Carr at all I would rather Tannehill But I’m sure a lot of average QBs could succeed in the Titans offense because all we heard is how dumbed down this offense was for Mariota because of all the different OCs hes had an any other reason he needed it dumbed down for Tannehill played great for us, but he took over that dumbed down offense and did well with it I wonder if the Titans start to make tweaks to it now or leave it simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans fan 617 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Not a surprise here Resigning Kelly makes the most sense Edited January 29, 2020 by Titans fan 617 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Nothing about bringing Dennis Kelley back as a starter makes sense. If Conklin leaves OT is round 1 priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans fan 617 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, TitanSS said: Nothing about bringing Dennis Kelley back as a starter makes sense. If Conklin leaves OT is round 1 priority. If the Titans dont get a legitimate pass rusher in Free Agency then I have Pass Rusher over RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ragevsuall17 said: I don't think anyone is expecting him to continue on the record breaking pace he had the past few months. I'm saying his success extends more than just half a season as you've claimed (8 games in a 4 year career was your statement). We hope for better consistency from him, but there will be peaks and valleys (like all other good players... good with bouts of greatness), and he's at least shown the past 2 years that he picks up steam towards the end of the season, similar to how he does towards the end of games when given a chance. That's when we'll need him most. Even if we weren't effective slowing the Chiefs down a couple of weeks ago, it's the right approach. Expecting him to continue at a torrid pace is unrealistic, but it's not unrealistic to expect him to continue on a per game pace as he has since the Eddie call, or at least close to it. But as long as he continues to punish defenders, drawing crowded boxes, he'll be invaluable to the team (as long as the qb is effective taking advantage of the play action, like Tannehill excelled at this year). And if he's the model we build our team after... What was JRobs saying a couple years ago, talking about the ideal Titan?... We'll be able to set up a culture and identity that players will want to come to. They'll see a leader who may be willing to take under market value... And a team that takes care of its own... All in one fell swoop. I know I've said it before, but it bears repeating... This is much more than just a RB signing. My post was a response to someone saying this is basically what we should expect from Henry from now on. I think recency bias has a lot of people thinking this is what Derrick Henry is and how he's performed for awhile now. He's had some success, for sure, but nothing like the last half of last year. No RB has put together a better 8 week stretch than he did. He was a 4 game stretch at the end of last season from his position being considered a need last off-season. This is the reality of where he was at coming into December last year. And then you have people making the claim that he carried our team the entire season that year, despite the fact that he only eclipsed 100 yards twice the entire season and outside of those two games he averaged under 4 YPC on the season. Recency bias has people misremembering what their thoughts of him were during that actual period. Or even what the perception of him was going into week 7 of this season. Edited January 29, 2020 by TitanSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSS Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Titans fan 617 said: If the Titans dont get a legitimate pass rusher in Free Agency then I have Pass Rusher over RT Agreed. Which is why Conklin needs to be brought back. Dennis Kelley cannot start at RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragevsuall17 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I'd rather have RT back, but Carr is a viable fallback option. I dont know if he fits the wide zone PA offense we ran this year, but let's not pretend his offense weapons were any good. He made Waller look good, he and all 18 passes he'd caught prior to this year. Other than Waller over Jonnu (and who knows if that's just a 1 year thing there), how many of the Raiders offensive weapons would anyone take over their counterpart here? Even with RTs outstanding season last year, their career stats are comparable... And Carr is 3 years younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I would throw up if we brought in Carr. He’s soft and sensitive as hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 All you have to do is watch him throw the ball away on 4th down in the end zone against us and that’s Derek Carr in a nutshell. @BayRaider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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