wolfeyestrk Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Matts4313 said: Im neither of those things. I already came clean. catch me up or give me a general page number if you would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, wolfeyestrk said: catch me up or give me a general page number if you would I am Kasmina. I can summon a wizard who blocks everything but hits. I havent used this ability yet. I can also "investigate" how many loyalty counters someone has. Doing that gives me a +1. I did that to Swag last night. He had 1 point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, theuntouchable said: Translation: dammit he’s right No, I'm just not running in circles with you. I've already explained why I think your reasoning is inconsistent and you're not addressing it and acting like I've said nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Vote Count 8 Matts – Joshstra, Gopher, Counselor, Rags, daboyle, KSJ, Pickle, Mwil 3 Rackcs – Touch, Squire. Forge 1 KSJ - Matts 1 MD4L – [Zombie] (-1) Nazgul - (Spirit) There are two Elf creatures on the battlefield. They each have “Each night, this creature's controller chooses a player. That player's vote will carry a weight of 2 for the following day phase” There is a Zombie creature on the battlefield. It has “Each night, this creature's controller chooses a player. That player will begin the next day with (+1) votes” There are two Vampire creatures on the battlefield. They each have “This creature has a vote with a weight of 1. Its controller controls its vote via PM” There is a Spirit creature on the battlefield. It has “Each night, this creature's controller chooses a player. That player begins the next day with (-1) votes” There is a Soldier creature on the battlefield. It has “Each night, this creature's controller chooses a player. If that player would be killed, this creature is destroyed instead” There is a Thopter creature on the battlefield. It has “Each night, this creature's controller chooses a player. That player will lose a loyalty counter (after costs are paid)” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 So if Swag started with 2 loyalty tokens and he created a soldier N1 he should have no loyalty tokens left when Matts visited him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I am Kasmina. I can summon a wizard who blocks everything but hits. I havent used this ability yet. I can also "investigate" how many loyalty counters someone has. Doing that gives me a +1. I did that to Swag last night. He had 1 point. So then why was your initial response just that you can block everything but hits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, rackcs said: No, I'm just not running in circles with you. I've already explained why I think your reasoning is inconsistent and you're not addressing it and acting like I've said nothing. Except, it isn’t inconsistent at all. My reasoning has remained the same. Just because I point out one aspect of my reasoning does not mean there is any change at all in my reasoning. I have addressed it, two separate times actually but nice attempt at a spin. Well, I mean, actually it’s a horrible attempt but I give you an A for effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Swag started with 2 loyalty tokens. He would be able to gain a token if he had put night one -2 votes on someone. He did not as evident by the VC. He chose to Create a solider that was a -2 loyalty token move. So he would have had zero when Matts visited him. So Matts is lying out of his teeth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Counselor said: So if Swag started with 2 loyalty tokens and he created a soldier N1 he should have no loyalty tokens left when Matts visited him. I started with 4, why would you assume he started with 2 and used them up? 4 minutes ago, theuntouchable said: So then why was your initial response just that you can block everything but hits? Because if I summon my creature, it blocks everything but hits. Where are you confused...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I am Kasmina. I can summon a wizard who blocks everything but hits. I havent used this ability yet. I can also "investigate" how many loyalty counters someone has. Doing that gives me a +1. I did that to Swag last night. He had 1 point. What you do n1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Counselor said: Swag started with 2 loyalty tokens. He would be able to gain a token if he had put night one -2 votes on someone. He did not as evident by the VC. He chose to Create a solider that was a -2 loyalty token move. So he would have had zero when Matts visited him. So Matts is lying out of his teeth. interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Counselor said: So if Swag started with 2 loyalty tokens and he created a soldier N1 he should have no loyalty tokens left when Matts visited him. It depends on n2. If he was able to use his move prior to death (which is likely) he could have used the +1 loyalty move on either night and the soldier on the other which would leave him at +1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: I started with 4, why would you assume he started with 2 and used them up? Because if I summon my creature, it blocks everything but hits. Where are you confused...? It says so in his role when he died smart guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, theuntouchable said: It depends on n2. If he was able to use his move prior to death (which is likely) he could have used the +1 loyalty move on either night and the soldier on the other which would leave him at +1. Nope we would see the votes on the VC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I started with 4, why would you assume he started with 2 and used them up? Because if I summon my creature, it blocks everything but hits. Where are you confused...? His literally states that he starts with 2 ..... did you not read it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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