Jerry Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Quite frankly, this might be the first time we've had a "good" team where we can confidently say we're pretty talented without massive, glaring holes. Not a qb point, just me being happy with how the roster is shaping up. The RT position is the glaring weakness IMO. I'm going to be irritated if we really go into the season without adding some players to fight for the RG/RT positions. Edited March 30, 2022 by Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: The reason Blake Bortles, Tim Tebow and even now with Jimmy G not being traded shows that ; Actual nfl talent evaluators don’t put wins losses on QBs. yes the nfl media does as you like to point out. I’ll trust the nfl evaluators over talking media all day. great point, Jimmy Gs win loss record is great, yet, no one will trade for him? Wonder why? If W/L record were a credible stat, Jimmy would go for more picks than Watson lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Quite frankly, this might be the first time we've had a "good" team where we can confidently say we're pretty talented without massive, glaring holes. Not a qb point, just me being happy with how the roster is shaping up. True. Although I still think we have massive holes in the o-line, but I admit its kind of nitpicking. We had many times when Carr had plenty of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, Geezy said: great point, Jimmy Gs win loss record is great, yet, no one will trade for him? Wonder why? If W/L record were a credible stat, Jimmy would go for more picks than Watson lol Wins/Losses aren't the only stat you judge a QB on, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, NYRaider said: They touch the ball every play that their team has the ball, lol. 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Good QB's usually win, lol. But who cares. Russell Wilson was 6-8 last year Deshaun Watson was 4-12 Drew Brees played on losing or 8-8 teams for like 1/2 of his career. Jimmy G won 1 fewer games in 1 season (2019) than he's lost in his entire career #GOAT But, sure, carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Geezy said: great point, Jimmy Gs win loss record is great, yet, no one will trade for him? Wonder why? If W/L record were a credible stat, Jimmy would go for more picks than Watson lol I'll tell you one thing. That Stafford guy with a .479 career win record....he'll never win a Superbowl 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Russell Wilson was 6-8 last year Deshaun Watson was 4-12 Drew Brees played on losing or 8-8 teams for like 1/2 of his career. Jimmy G won 1 fewer games in 1 season (2019) than he's lost in his entire career #GOAT But, sure, carry on. Wins/Losses aren't the only statistic that you judge a QB on my boy, lol. It's a collection of things including personal performance, supporting cast, and W/L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 minute ago, NickButera said: I'll tell you one thing. That Stafford guy with a .479 career win record....he'll never win a Superbowl I'll tell you another thing. Warren Moon will never make the HOF because his W/L record is under .500. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wins/Losses aren't the only stat you judge a QB on, lol. You're right. If not for the injury, Jimmy G and his .68 winning % would have easily nabbed 4 firsts, 4 seconds, and 5 thirds. Lol. Taking "Just Win Baby" waaaaay too literally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 If you're losing and never have elite production is that really something to be proud of? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wins/Losses aren't the only stat you judge a QB on, lol. I’m not saying it is. But if it were a meaningful stat, it’d probably be the most important. the fact that it isn’t, tells me everything I need to know about putting W/Ls squarely on QBs shoulders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, ronjon1990 said: You're right. If not for the injury, Jimmy G and his .68 winning % would have easily nabbed 4 firsts, 4 seconds, and 5 thirds. Lol. Taking "Just Win Baby" waaaaay too literally Jimmy never produced at an elite level, he was on a Carr level with that great win % and still couldn't get traded. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, Geezy said: I’m not saying it is. But if it were a meaningful stat, it’d probably be the most important. the fact that it isn’t, tells me everything I need to know about putting W/Ls squarely on QBs shoulders. You obviously have to take supporting cast and QB production into the equation and how much influence they had on wins/losses, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: If you're losing and never have elite production is that really something to be proud of? lol Bunch of guys have won a bunch with the same production as Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, Geezy said: Bunch of guys have won a bunch with the same production as Carr. How many QB's have won with 1/1 TD/TO ratio and never being near the top of the league in TD production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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